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Message: <blockquote data-quote="alank2" data-source="post: 1331134" data-attributes="member: 108">Hi,+2 on both of criticalbass's posts.The story surely is a sad tragedy, and I never like how media stories use such tragedies as fodder for their emotional whiplash.  That still doesn't change what happened.She made a mistake.  No doubt about it she violated a rule and did not know where the muzzle was pointing and what was behind it.  This was her fault and I truly feel for her as this would be something I would think someone would never recover from.Remington is also at fault here:First, a mechanism that requires the user to take off the safety before opening the bolt is just plain stupidity.  They should have never designed or made it that way.  I am going to go as far as saying I am not a fan of safeties for this reason.  How do you know they are safe?  To me that is putting a little too much trust in something and it might tempt you to relax a bit with the safety rules which is a bad idea.Second, when the designer of something goes back and says wait a minute, we might have a safety problem, and the corporate wigs decide to not listen, Remington really put themselves in a bad position.Third, after they made the wrong choice of not listening to the designer and owning up to fixing the problem, they are forced to create a campaign of lying and deceit to their customers.  This is where Remington lost me.  I know all companies likely do this, but these guys got some guts doing it so brazenly and for so long (decades).  Usually companies will quietly fix the problem and then lie to the people who have the unfixed model and hope nothing bad happens.  These guys kept making something they knew had a problem for decades AND kept lying to their customers about it.  They would have been doing THEMSELVES a good service by fixing this decades ago.People rag on Ruger a bit for all of their recalls, but I'd rather deal with a company any day that admits to a mistake and better yet, fixes it on their dime, than one that would tell me a safety problem doesn't exist and lie to me.I don't think the story made gun owners look too bad, but it did make Remington bad as well they should.I understand the slippery slope of having gun manufactures subject to a product and safety government agency, but I don't think the 2A should make gun manufacturers untouchable if they produce a defective product.  It really surprises me how the 2A is ignored in so much of our countries' law for the people, but yet it is claimed and not questioned when companies want to use it continue to produce defective products.I know Remington is arguing their product isn't defective, but if it fires and the trigger isn't touched, it is defective.  If a design and their manufacturing techniques lead to a rifle that is known to do this, this is a problem.Good luck,Alan</blockquote>

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