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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 1967074" data-attributes="member: 3099">Update:I got a quote and it was not as high as I expected.  Higher than I was hoping though.  $6500 for the total system install LESS the tank cost.  I just have to decide what tank I want and add that.  I'm leaning towards a 13.5 gge and that tank runs $1580.  So I'm looking at $8080 total.  Then I get a 50% tax credit from the State of OK, and another $1500 from ONG.  That gets me to $2540 for the system cost total.  Now here's the interesting part.  The guy was saying that what they were hearing from "pretty reliable sources in the know" that no matter who won the election, there's a very real possibility that the federal tax credit will be brought back, and that when they've done this in the past they've made it retroactive at least for a year.  I do seem to remember something like this but I think he might just be using this to try sell more systems.  I know I'm not holding my breath if we don't get a change in Washington.The system itself is pretty cool.  All of the factory sensors, ECM and stuff still works.  They add another ECM for the CNG injection.  When it switches from CNG to gas and back you can't even tell anything happened.  Except for the engine is noticeably quieter on CNG.  If you run out of CNG you likely won't even know it, it will just switch to gasoline.  They told me that if I bought a newer V8 or even V6 truck they would swap the system over to the new truck for "way under $1000", just depends on how much of the injectors and stuff they can reuse.  They way the system is designed it's very universal so most will go right on another vehicle.  Supposedly CNG will get you up to 20% better mileage if you drive right.  If so that will put my truck right at 20MPG on the highway.  <img src="/images/smilies/woot.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":woot:" title="Woot    :woot:" data-shortname=":woot:" />I've also done a little research on the home fueling units.  We are real fortunate in Oklahoma.  When you put pen to paper on these it gets real revealing.  The Phill stations pump about 1 gallon equivalent per hour from what I can tell.  They run about 4000 hours before needing an overhaul.  If you get 4000 hours you are adding about $1.25 per gallon to the cost of your fuel using the cost of this unit at $5000 and that doesn't include the electricity to run it.  So you are actually spending more on fuel at home than at a pump somewhere when considering the unit cost.  However in Oklahoma you also get the 50% state tax credit on that PLUS a $2500 rebate from ONG for one of these so that pretty much nixes that problem at least until you need a rebuild.I went up and looked at them and he had one in a pretty new Tundra 4X4.  They had a brand spanking new Denali in the shop and had just finished putting one on a F250 Powerstroke Diesel 4X4 that looked really new.  I think I may just do it...</blockquote>

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