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<blockquote data-quote="Dave70968" data-source="post: 3152966" data-attributes="member: 13624">I know I was giving C_Hallbert a bit of ribbing for his position, and you chose to involve yourself.No, it isn&#039;t.I wasn&#039;t saying &quot;allow individual players to stay in the locker room.&quot;&nbsp; I was saying &quot;put them all in the locker room.&quot;&nbsp; If you&#039;re not familiar with the history, that was the norm for a long time, up until fed.gov/the military paid the NFL to stage &quot;patriotic displays&quot; before games.&nbsp; The NFL took the money and dutifully ordered the players out on the field, thus creating the situation.So...let&#039;s stop that.&nbsp; Play the anthem, fine, but keep the players in the locker room until the game starts.&nbsp; Let&#039;s not pretend this has anything to do with patriotism; it doesn&#039;t.&nbsp; When it&#039;s the result of a payment inducing you to do something you hadn&#039;t done before, it&#039;s called propaganda, and it smacks of Soviet-style enforced &quot;patriotism.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dave70968, post: 3152966, member: 13624"] I know I was giving C_Hallbert a bit of ribbing for his position, and you chose to involve yourself. No, it isn't. I wasn't saying "allow individual players to stay in the locker room." I was saying "put them [I]all[/I] in the locker room." If you're not familiar with the history, that was the norm for a long time, up until fed.gov/the military [I]paid[/I] the NFL to stage "patriotic displays" before games. The NFL took the money and dutifully ordered the players out on the field, thus creating the situation. So...let's stop that. Play the anthem, fine, but keep the players in the locker room until the game starts. Let's not pretend this has anything to do with patriotism; it doesn't. When it's the result of a payment inducing you to do something you hadn't done before, it's called [I]propaganda[/I], and it smacks of Soviet-style enforced "patriotism." [/QUOTE]

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