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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tRidiot" data-source="post: 2874640" data-attributes="member: 9374">Canada is not fully single-payer. It varies by province. Last I heard from my Canadian colleagues, Ontario was not, but Quebec was. Tons of patients wait months or even years for approval for simple diagnostics like an MRI. Unlike many folks who advocate single-payer systems, I have actually worked and practiced in a socialized medicine system. While it wasn't gov't-mandated single-payer, there were definitely mind-boggling delays in care as well as flat-out denial of treatment for some serious conditions for those who were beneficiaries of the state-run system. It's no utopia, let me tell you, and the things I saw and dealt with every single day would have modern-day Americans nearly rioting in the street with the limitations imposed. There were good aspects and bad aspects of the system - just like everywhere else. Including here.</blockquote>