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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 2874831" data-attributes="member: 24">It&#039;s not my opinion....the situations I have posted concerning medicare, the VA, Vermont, Canada, and the UK are real world scenarios.&nbsp; If one applies any sort of reasoning or critical thinking on the subject you simply ignore it.&nbsp; Surely though, you&#039;re intelligent enough to understand the VA has significant problems?&nbsp; That Medicare still costs the end user quite a bit of money if they are sick and on meds?&nbsp; That Canada has long waiting lines for diagnostics with inferior and more invasive procedures?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or is it your ego won&#039;t let you consider what is happening in the real world under single payer systems? In terms of your autistic like insistence on the AMA validation.&nbsp; I posted exactly what the AMA has stated on the subject.....&nbsp; Hint: They&#039;re not a fan of Single Payer.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, to shed some light who they really are.<a href="http://www.anh-usa.org/who-does-the-american-medical-association-really-work-for/" target="_blank">Whom Does the American Medical Association Really Work For?</a>Cliff Notes:- 17% of Doctors in the U.S. belong to the AMA........hopefully... you understand that&#039;s not a majority?- In 2011... the AMA was polled and thus they said 70% of the doctors don&#039;t represent their views on Obamacare.&nbsp; Of which, the&nbsp; AMA gave it&#039;s approval of Obamacare.- The AMA receives 2 times the revenue from the government than it does it&#039;s members.&nbsp; Hence it&#039;s approval on Obamacare I&#039;m sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JD8, post: 2874831, member: 24"] It's not my opinion....the situations I have posted concerning medicare, the VA, Vermont, Canada, and the UK are real world scenarios. If one applies any sort of reasoning or critical thinking on the subject you simply ignore it. Surely though, you're intelligent enough to understand the VA has significant problems? That Medicare still costs the end user quite a bit of money if they are sick and on meds? That Canada has long waiting lines for diagnostics with inferior and more invasive procedures? Or is it your ego won't let you consider what is happening in the real world under single payer systems? In terms of your autistic like insistence on the AMA validation. I posted exactly what the AMA has stated on the subject..... Hint: They're not a fan of Single Payer. However, to shed some light who they really are. [URL="http://www.anh-usa.org/who-does-the-american-medical-association-really-work-for/"]Whom Does the American Medical Association Really Work For?[/URL] Cliff Notes: - 17% of Doctors in the U.S. belong to the AMA........hopefully... you understand that's not a majority? - In 2011... the AMA was polled and thus they said 70% of the doctors don't represent their views on Obamacare. Of which, the AMA gave it's approval of Obamacare. - The AMA receives 2 times the revenue from the government than it does it's members. Hence it's approval on Obamacare I'm sure. [/QUOTE]

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