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<blockquote data-quote="doctruptwn" data-source="post: 740131" data-attributes="member: 5207"><p>EUREKA!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER...................</p><p></p><p>Ok after consulting with some of the leading 1911 experts in the country we have what I believe to be a winner. Not absolutely verifiable, but as good as it is going to get.</p><p></p><p>According to the experts prior to 1970 there were no aftermarket 1911 frames being produced outside of Colt and WWII contractors. The Serial Number 6c402 is not consistant with any Colt manufactured or contract manufactured pistol frames. Furthermore, there are no known aftermarket manufactures that used a serial number system XCXXX. As explained above, Commercial Colts have either a leading or trailing C in the serial number. The experts could not rule out some guy with a CNC machine, producing his own frame from a block of steel and giving it that serial number but they find that highly unlikely. Additionally the Frame has a "VP" Proofmark. This stands for "Verified Proof" This is a known proof mark from the Colt factory and was inspected by inspector #5. They are trying to get a name for that inspector. Prior to the 1968 firearms act the Company name did not have to appear next the the serial number which is why this Colt frame doesn't say Colt</p><p></p><p>So I realize the question that you are asking is If the OP called Colt and they have no record of Serial # 6C402 how is in fact a Colt. Well the experts feeling is a "Light Strike" Serial number combined with the fact that the pistol appears to have been refinished, and most likely heavily buffed durring that process, resulted in a protion of the "0" being removed as it also appears to have happened with the "VP" proofmark. So the Actual Serial Number is most likely 60402. This number is verifiable to a 1948 38 super frame. Now you question: But it is a 45 acp? It was common practice following WWII to convert 38 super frames to 45 acp as the 45 acp ammo was available in huge quanities while 38 super was not as nearly available and continued to surplused by the US Govt, as 38 super was a standard round for the FBI, and Treasury, Secret Service (then OSI) agents.</p><p></p><p>So now you ask; What is this gun? Well it is a mix master, made after 1948, however, likely prior to the Korean war. It is built from a bunch of WWII parts likely from several manufactures, Likely at a military arsenal. (It would have been common practice at the time for the arsenal to completely disassemble the pistol and throw each respective part into a bin of like parts refinish clean and then reassemble, without reguard of keeping each pistol with it own parts.) It was likely buffed up to removed rust and the old finish. In the process some of the finer details were lost. It appears to have had a high quality Blued finish put on it and since has been maticuosly taken care of. So with this new info, Value is likely somewhere in the $1000-1500.00 range conseratively. And we now know just a little bit more about American history. And I would have to say you own a nice piece of it. If that pistol could talk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctruptwn, post: 740131, member: 5207"] EUREKA!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER................... Ok after consulting with some of the leading 1911 experts in the country we have what I believe to be a winner. Not absolutely verifiable, but as good as it is going to get. According to the experts prior to 1970 there were no aftermarket 1911 frames being produced outside of Colt and WWII contractors. The Serial Number 6c402 is not consistant with any Colt manufactured or contract manufactured pistol frames. Furthermore, there are no known aftermarket manufactures that used a serial number system XCXXX. As explained above, Commercial Colts have either a leading or trailing C in the serial number. The experts could not rule out some guy with a CNC machine, producing his own frame from a block of steel and giving it that serial number but they find that highly unlikely. Additionally the Frame has a "VP" Proofmark. This stands for "Verified Proof" This is a known proof mark from the Colt factory and was inspected by inspector #5. They are trying to get a name for that inspector. Prior to the 1968 firearms act the Company name did not have to appear next the the serial number which is why this Colt frame doesn't say Colt So I realize the question that you are asking is If the OP called Colt and they have no record of Serial # 6C402 how is in fact a Colt. Well the experts feeling is a "Light Strike" Serial number combined with the fact that the pistol appears to have been refinished, and most likely heavily buffed durring that process, resulted in a protion of the "0" being removed as it also appears to have happened with the "VP" proofmark. So the Actual Serial Number is most likely 60402. This number is verifiable to a 1948 38 super frame. Now you question: But it is a 45 acp? It was common practice following WWII to convert 38 super frames to 45 acp as the 45 acp ammo was available in huge quanities while 38 super was not as nearly available and continued to surplused by the US Govt, as 38 super was a standard round for the FBI, and Treasury, Secret Service (then OSI) agents. So now you ask; What is this gun? Well it is a mix master, made after 1948, however, likely prior to the Korean war. It is built from a bunch of WWII parts likely from several manufactures, Likely at a military arsenal. (It would have been common practice at the time for the arsenal to completely disassemble the pistol and throw each respective part into a bin of like parts refinish clean and then reassemble, without reguard of keeping each pistol with it own parts.) It was likely buffed up to removed rust and the old finish. In the process some of the finer details were lost. It appears to have had a high quality Blued finish put on it and since has been maticuosly taken care of. So with this new info, Value is likely somewhere in the $1000-1500.00 range conseratively. And we now know just a little bit more about American history. And I would have to say you own a nice piece of it. If that pistol could talk. [/QUOTE]
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