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<blockquote data-quote="Soulman" data-source="post: 689173" data-attributes="member: 554"><p>Totally agree. I've been in really bad bars before, but most of the bars I might be in today would be upper end, so it's not so much inside that I'm worried about. I want to carry as much and as often as possible. The chances of needing it in some places might be slim, but there's always a chance. I would much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. And that's where my dad and I argue. He either says "stay out of those places" which can't always happen, or "the chances of something happening are slim statistically speaking......" Well, I don't want to end up a bad statistic. Or, "you only need hi cap mags if you are a police officer or military". Well, I highly doubt I would need 12, 15, 18+ rounds, but I would rather have too much over not having enough.</p><p></p><p>Over train, over prepare, carry as often as legally possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wanting the government to restrict lawful citizens from protecting themselves is a bad idea. Saying "we should keep them from carrying in X-place to keep them from doing stupid" ranks right up there with "anyone with a semi-auto/hi cap mag/etc could potentially cause harm since the "more powerful gear" gives some a bad@ss complex."</p><p></p><p>I might not see why some think they need/want a hi cap AK/AR or maybe even a full auto. That doesn't mean I think they should restrict them just because it's not something I would personally choose to do. And some argue that owning guns like I mentioned means you only want them for bad guy activities.</p><p></p><p>Would I carry in a bar if I were allowed, yes. Would I drink and get drunk? I don't get drunk and drink very seldom. Why am I in the bar? Family and friends like going and as bulbboy said, I'm always the designated driver.</p><p></p><p>And I guess there are no shootings in bars now since it's illegal to carry in one? Do you really think shootings in bars would suddenly increase if law abiding citizens (think of all the hoops one must jump through to get a CCL) were allowed to carry? How many CC-holders drink to the point of getting drunk?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>^This.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Soulman, post: 689173, member: 554"] Totally agree. I've been in really bad bars before, but most of the bars I might be in today would be upper end, so it's not so much inside that I'm worried about. I want to carry as much and as often as possible. The chances of needing it in some places might be slim, but there's always a chance. I would much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. And that's where my dad and I argue. He either says "stay out of those places" which can't always happen, or "the chances of something happening are slim statistically speaking......" Well, I don't want to end up a bad statistic. Or, "you only need hi cap mags if you are a police officer or military". Well, I highly doubt I would need 12, 15, 18+ rounds, but I would rather have too much over not having enough. Over train, over prepare, carry as often as legally possible. Wanting the government to restrict lawful citizens from protecting themselves is a bad idea. Saying "we should keep them from carrying in X-place to keep them from doing stupid" ranks right up there with "anyone with a semi-auto/hi cap mag/etc could potentially cause harm since the "more powerful gear" gives some a bad@ss complex." I might not see why some think they need/want a hi cap AK/AR or maybe even a full auto. That doesn't mean I think they should restrict them just because it's not something I would personally choose to do. And some argue that owning guns like I mentioned means you only want them for bad guy activities. Would I carry in a bar if I were allowed, yes. Would I drink and get drunk? I don't get drunk and drink very seldom. Why am I in the bar? Family and friends like going and as bulbboy said, I'm always the designated driver. And I guess there are no shootings in bars now since it's illegal to carry in one? Do you really think shootings in bars would suddenly increase if law abiding citizens (think of all the hoops one must jump through to get a CCL) were allowed to carry? How many CC-holders drink to the point of getting drunk? ^This..... [/QUOTE]
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