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<blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 2761067" data-attributes="member: 277"><p>No, i saw the link, but your analogy still falls short for the reasons i listed. Discussing removing a monument peacefully is not the same as blowing up a place that you seized in war. CNN <em>asking</em> about presidential monuments does not equate to what ISIS is doing. Not matter how you try to spin it.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure there are those out there that want to remove the Jefferson monument, and we can have that discussion when the time comes. Without really putting much effort into it, it's easy to see several distinctions between the Jefferson monument and the battle flag. </p><p></p><p>First among them the fact that Jefferson's side won their rebellion. We can keep going and look at Jefferson's efforts to attack the practice of slavery when he for the Declaration of Independence. </p><p></p><p>But again, right now we are talking about the flag of a lost rebellion, which is being flown on public property, and has a connection to a much more recent past of racism and oppression. I am glad people feel so passionately about protecting the symbol, but i wish they'd put this much energy into shouting down the hate groups that have usurped the flag. </p><p></p><p>And as i also pointed out, many of the flags weren't installed or changed immediately after the war, but during the civil rights movement. If the symbol was so worth celebrating and protecting, why did it take the fight for equal rights to get southern states on board with elevating the battle flag to a place of honor?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="donner, post: 2761067, member: 277"] No, i saw the link, but your analogy still falls short for the reasons i listed. Discussing removing a monument peacefully is not the same as blowing up a place that you seized in war. CNN [I]asking[/I] about presidential monuments does not equate to what ISIS is doing. Not matter how you try to spin it. I'm sure there are those out there that want to remove the Jefferson monument, and we can have that discussion when the time comes. Without really putting much effort into it, it's easy to see several distinctions between the Jefferson monument and the battle flag. First among them the fact that Jefferson's side won their rebellion. We can keep going and look at Jefferson's efforts to attack the practice of slavery when he for the Declaration of Independence. But again, right now we are talking about the flag of a lost rebellion, which is being flown on public property, and has a connection to a much more recent past of racism and oppression. I am glad people feel so passionately about protecting the symbol, but i wish they'd put this much energy into shouting down the hate groups that have usurped the flag. And as i also pointed out, many of the flags weren't installed or changed immediately after the war, but during the civil rights movement. If the symbol was so worth celebrating and protecting, why did it take the fight for equal rights to get southern states on board with elevating the battle flag to a place of honor? [/QUOTE]
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