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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 2137984" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>AGAIN, from the 4473: </p><p></p><p>Let me spell it out in plain English: By federal law, a nurse or doctor IS NOT a lawful authority. Unless California law has by legislative or popular vote MADE doctors and nurses a lawful authority, and the commitment was made in accordance with said California law (if it exists), then the confiscation DID NOT comport with federal law and would be unconstitutional AND unlawful. Notice in the last bolded portion, an observation period IS NOT a commitment in accordance with federal law, regardless of what California says. </p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that we're not tilting at windmills here. We agree that dangerous persons should be kept away from firearms (and other dangerous items). I clearly spelled out a safe and effective method to do this that doesn't violate a person's constitutional rights. Yet you ignored it completely to suit your own opinion. What we DO want to do is combat shoddy and unconstitutional enforcement of the law(s). We also want to ensure that a mere doctor or nurse can NEVER sign a piece of paper and instantly wipe out a person's rights. That would be a recipe for abuse.</p><p></p><p>Now if you still disagree, I can't help you unless you can cite a specific law that says otherwise. <img src="/images/smilies/ugh2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":ugh2:" title="Ugh2 :ugh2:" data-shortname=":ugh2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 2137984, member: 1132"] AGAIN, from the 4473: Let me spell it out in plain English: By federal law, a nurse or doctor IS NOT a lawful authority. Unless California law has by legislative or popular vote MADE doctors and nurses a lawful authority, and the commitment was made in accordance with said California law (if it exists), then the confiscation DID NOT comport with federal law and would be unconstitutional AND unlawful. Notice in the last bolded portion, an observation period IS NOT a commitment in accordance with federal law, regardless of what California says. Keep in mind that we're not tilting at windmills here. We agree that dangerous persons should be kept away from firearms (and other dangerous items). I clearly spelled out a safe and effective method to do this that doesn't violate a person's constitutional rights. Yet you ignored it completely to suit your own opinion. What we DO want to do is combat shoddy and unconstitutional enforcement of the law(s). We also want to ensure that a mere doctor or nurse can NEVER sign a piece of paper and instantly wipe out a person's rights. That would be a recipe for abuse. Now if you still disagree, I can't help you unless you can cite a specific law that says otherwise. :ugh2: [/QUOTE]
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