The too far is because they abandoned Goldy values period. The rest is downhill just a matter of when. Study real history not history revisionists of all the great societies. They were raised for one of two reasons. One to thrive until they abandoned Godly principles or 2 to destroy and enslave one society that had done #1. It is cyclical and depends of the quality of the leaders directly as many follow poor leadership but it all brings us all down. So buckle up we are in for a real rollor coaster downhill. Its completely unavoidable. The only question is or when we repent and how bad it gets due to postponing repentance. God disciplines those whom he loves.
I think this is a hard one to answer. There will be varying degrees of what "too far gone" means. Plus one person's idea of change and betterment could be another's view of way worse than before.
This ... "gone too far" is when I don't have running water to work with ... that said, I'm pretty sure I can live without it if I have to. Lurker is right ... I'm too old for "rebuilding" so the only order of the day for me is to survive until I don't want to survive anymore.
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