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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3796167" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>i understand all the "in town" talk, but i'm fairly certain if you look at motorcycle fatalities and where they occur......</p><p></p><p>a car "not seeing you" on a state highway with no median is MORE LIKELY than one not seeing you in the middle of traffic going 30 down a city street.</p><p></p><p>and one of them you are going to walk away from.</p><p></p><p>for instance; it's hard to find figures that are all the same, but this brief article gives a few breakdowns:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/motorcycle-accidents-common-causes-30330.html[/URL]</p><p></p><p>>According to the<a href="https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813112" target="_blank"> 2019 NHTSA report</a>, just over half of the 5,114 motorcycles involved in fatal accidents included another moving vehicle. In three-quarters of those accidents, the car struck the motorcycle in the front. (Only 7% of motorcycles were rear-ended.)</p><p></p><p>>Motorcyclists were also more likely to die in collisions with fixed objects, compared with people in passenger cars in 2019. For example, motorcyclists can be severely injured or killed when they veer off a rain-slicked road and hit a tree or a fence. Of the 5,114 fatal motorcycle accidents in 2019, 23% were collisions with fixed objects, compared to 16% for passenger cars, 13% for light trucks, and 4% for large trucks.</p><p>>Light and more powerful motorcycles (like sport and supersport bikes) encourage speeding and other high-risk behavior. A full 33% of motorcycle riders in fatal crashes in 2019 were speeding. Younger riders are even more likely to be involved in fatal accidents while speeding. Half of all riders in the 21-24 age group who died in motorcycle accidents were speeding when they crashed.</p><p></p><p></p><p>so just by going thru these numbers quickly, you can see that not speeding and wearing a helmet already makes your death chances reduced by over 50%.</p><p></p><p>while most "accidents" occur on intersections, it's hard to find "fatality" data. i know when dudes die, they usually aren't just putting around town. they are usually bombing 100+ down the highway and simply go too fast for their reaction time. watching crash compilation videos, especially when a known death is involved, confirms this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3796167, member: 45524"] i understand all the "in town" talk, but i'm fairly certain if you look at motorcycle fatalities and where they occur...... a car "not seeing you" on a state highway with no median is MORE LIKELY than one not seeing you in the middle of traffic going 30 down a city street. and one of them you are going to walk away from. for instance; it's hard to find figures that are all the same, but this brief article gives a few breakdowns: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/motorcycle-accidents-common-causes-30330.html[/URL] >According to the[URL='https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/813112'] 2019 NHTSA report[/URL], just over half of the 5,114 motorcycles involved in fatal accidents included another moving vehicle. In three-quarters of those accidents, the car struck the motorcycle in the front. (Only 7% of motorcycles were rear-ended.) >Motorcyclists were also more likely to die in collisions with fixed objects, compared with people in passenger cars in 2019. For example, motorcyclists can be severely injured or killed when they veer off a rain-slicked road and hit a tree or a fence. Of the 5,114 fatal motorcycle accidents in 2019, 23% were collisions with fixed objects, compared to 16% for passenger cars, 13% for light trucks, and 4% for large trucks. >Light and more powerful motorcycles (like sport and supersport bikes) encourage speeding and other high-risk behavior. A full 33% of motorcycle riders in fatal crashes in 2019 were speeding. Younger riders are even more likely to be involved in fatal accidents while speeding. Half of all riders in the 21-24 age group who died in motorcycle accidents were speeding when they crashed. so just by going thru these numbers quickly, you can see that not speeding and wearing a helmet already makes your death chances reduced by over 50%. while most "accidents" occur on intersections, it's hard to find "fatality" data. i know when dudes die, they usually aren't just putting around town. they are usually bombing 100+ down the highway and simply go too fast for their reaction time. watching crash compilation videos, especially when a known death is involved, confirms this. [/QUOTE]
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