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<blockquote data-quote="Billybob" data-source="post: 2183896" data-attributes="member: 1294"><p>Yes, it's called "The Tender Years Doctrine".</p><p></p><p>As for leaving children in danger consider this case...</p><p></p><p>No. FD-2000-4985</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-news-murder-suicide-update-story,0,6541471.story" target="_blank">http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-news-murder-suicide-update-story,0,6541471.story</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Murder-suicide update</p><p></p><p>MARIKA LORRAINE REPORTING</p><p></p><p>6:46 PM CDT, June 4, 2009</p><p>OKLAHOMA CITY -- Neighbors heard a woman pleading for her life last Thursday, followed by gunshots. Seconds later a 10-year-old boy is found running down the street; yelling for help.</p><p></p><p>The murder was followed by a half-day standoff with police before the gunman's body was found in the woods. Police say Patrick Vaught took his own life and the life of his ex-girlfriend Shandy Roof.</p><p></p><p>She was seven months pregnant. But leading up to the death was years of disputes with DHS and a troubling history of postponed court hearings.</p><p></p><p>Shandy's father says, "I knew something tragic was going to happen to her."</p><p></p><p>Robert Roof says his daughter was into drugs and had problems including a filthy house.</p><p></p><p>Roof says, "The best way I can describe it inside is like a dumpster turned upside down."</p><p></p><p>It was the alleged drug use, living conditions, and other concerns that caused Shandy's ex-boyfriend, Patrick Vaught, to seek custody of their 10-year-old son Arion.</p><p></p><p>Patrick's attorney, James Reid, says the custody case over the boy started in 2006 and was set for trial five different times over the years. The trial kept getting pushed back. The latest time it was delayed was right before the murder and suicide.</p><p></p><p>Reid says, "If we had just gone to trail, I think the judge would have found circumstances warranting a custody modification and we wouldn't be sitting here talking to you today."</p><p></p><p>Shandy's father blames more than just the court system.</p><p></p><p>He says, "The failure of DHS, I feel, caused this whole situation."</p><p></p><p>Most of the time, Arion lived with Shandy. It was a situation both families tried to change.</p><p></p><p>Roof says, "They wouldn't listen. They would not listen at all." Now both families say the tragic ending was the result of the stress caused by the battle over what was best for the 10-year-old boy.</p><p></p><p>Reid says, "With this last continuance, nobody was going to listen to him and he just couldn't wait any longer."</p><p></p><p>What stands out about this tragedy is both sides of the family agree about what went wrong, yet couldn't seem to stop it. Shandy's father is now working with Patrick Vaught's attorney asking for new legislation to keep custody battles from dragging on for years like this one. They also want a shake up of the DHS system.</p><p></p><p>All four grandparents now share guardianship of the 10-year-old boy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Billybob, post: 2183896, member: 1294"] Yes, it's called "The Tender Years Doctrine". As for leaving children in danger consider this case... No. FD-2000-4985 [url]http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor-news-murder-suicide-update-story,0,6541471.story[/url] Murder-suicide update MARIKA LORRAINE REPORTING 6:46 PM CDT, June 4, 2009 OKLAHOMA CITY -- Neighbors heard a woman pleading for her life last Thursday, followed by gunshots. Seconds later a 10-year-old boy is found running down the street; yelling for help. The murder was followed by a half-day standoff with police before the gunman's body was found in the woods. Police say Patrick Vaught took his own life and the life of his ex-girlfriend Shandy Roof. She was seven months pregnant. But leading up to the death was years of disputes with DHS and a troubling history of postponed court hearings. Shandy's father says, "I knew something tragic was going to happen to her." Robert Roof says his daughter was into drugs and had problems including a filthy house. Roof says, "The best way I can describe it inside is like a dumpster turned upside down." It was the alleged drug use, living conditions, and other concerns that caused Shandy's ex-boyfriend, Patrick Vaught, to seek custody of their 10-year-old son Arion. Patrick's attorney, James Reid, says the custody case over the boy started in 2006 and was set for trial five different times over the years. The trial kept getting pushed back. The latest time it was delayed was right before the murder and suicide. Reid says, "If we had just gone to trail, I think the judge would have found circumstances warranting a custody modification and we wouldn't be sitting here talking to you today." Shandy's father blames more than just the court system. He says, "The failure of DHS, I feel, caused this whole situation." Most of the time, Arion lived with Shandy. It was a situation both families tried to change. Roof says, "They wouldn't listen. They would not listen at all." Now both families say the tragic ending was the result of the stress caused by the battle over what was best for the 10-year-old boy. Reid says, "With this last continuance, nobody was going to listen to him and he just couldn't wait any longer." What stands out about this tragedy is both sides of the family agree about what went wrong, yet couldn't seem to stop it. Shandy's father is now working with Patrick Vaught's attorney asking for new legislation to keep custody battles from dragging on for years like this one. They also want a shake up of the DHS system. All four grandparents now share guardianship of the 10-year-old boy. [/QUOTE]
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