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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 893513" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>Well, I've gotten some groups as wide as 1-2 inches at 100yds with the same crappy ammo in mine, but in this rig, that's no excuse:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]70474[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Broughton/GAP barrel I've got is 1/10 twist and presumably a whole lot better chamber and crown - so it handles the variations in ammo much better than the factory barrel on my son's rig does, but with ammo being so drastically different, it just makes for a crappy day at the range until I break out the higher-end ammo and it calms back down to around 1/2 MOA like its supposed to (or my hunting rounds - which aren't cheap either).</p><p></p><p>My son's:</p><p></p><p><strong>[Broken External Image]</strong></p><p></p><p>...with a factory barrel is the one where this difference shows up as far as 3-4" (I've even shot it from a rest after re-torquing everything to spec and ensuring that is in the B&C stock correctly - same thing as shooting it from the bi-pod). I can almost predict which round is going to be a flyer as they're seated deeper or not as deep as the average in that package.</p><p></p><p>I'm planning on visiting Steve Baldwin as soon as I can make my way up to OKC again to get the barrel upgraded on my boy's rifle, but that doesn't excuse the crap-standard in .308 ammo that I've been seeing (and its well more noticeable in his rifle, so it just pisses me off more when I buy ammo and take it out of the box and see that its so bad that its noticeable with the naked eye).</p><p></p><p>This pretty much rules out any cheap ammo at Academy, Dongs, Bass Pro, or Wal-Mart and I'm not crazy about running corrosive stuff through my barrel, so I'm limited by foreign and some mil-surp ammo. SportsWorld doesn't have a lot of really cheap ammo (unless I've missed it). </p><p></p><p>I guess I'm just disheartened that I can't get decent ammo for a decent price - like Wal-Mart's Federal .223 bulk packs - they group well and seem to be well-made for 40cents/round locally (not as cheap as online, but I can get it locally, its brass-cased and even though its bulk packed - it holds a nice group for me).</p><p></p><p>Sigh, I guess its online from now on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 893513, member: 229"] Well, I've gotten some groups as wide as 1-2 inches at 100yds with the same crappy ammo in mine, but in this rig, that's no excuse: [attach=full]70474[/attach] The Broughton/GAP barrel I've got is 1/10 twist and presumably a whole lot better chamber and crown - so it handles the variations in ammo much better than the factory barrel on my son's rig does, but with ammo being so drastically different, it just makes for a crappy day at the range until I break out the higher-end ammo and it calms back down to around 1/2 MOA like its supposed to (or my hunting rounds - which aren't cheap either). My son's: [b][Broken External Image][/b] ...with a factory barrel is the one where this difference shows up as far as 3-4" (I've even shot it from a rest after re-torquing everything to spec and ensuring that is in the B&C stock correctly - same thing as shooting it from the bi-pod). I can almost predict which round is going to be a flyer as they're seated deeper or not as deep as the average in that package. I'm planning on visiting Steve Baldwin as soon as I can make my way up to OKC again to get the barrel upgraded on my boy's rifle, but that doesn't excuse the crap-standard in .308 ammo that I've been seeing (and its well more noticeable in his rifle, so it just pisses me off more when I buy ammo and take it out of the box and see that its so bad that its noticeable with the naked eye). This pretty much rules out any cheap ammo at Academy, Dongs, Bass Pro, or Wal-Mart and I'm not crazy about running corrosive stuff through my barrel, so I'm limited by foreign and some mil-surp ammo. SportsWorld doesn't have a lot of really cheap ammo (unless I've missed it). I guess I'm just disheartened that I can't get decent ammo for a decent price - like Wal-Mart's Federal .223 bulk packs - they group well and seem to be well-made for 40cents/round locally (not as cheap as online, but I can get it locally, its brass-cased and even though its bulk packed - it holds a nice group for me). Sigh, I guess its online from now on. [/QUOTE]
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