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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllOut" data-source="post: 1199693" data-attributes="member: 12099"><p>good points Doc it seems we kind of have the same views on it.  As for actual arrow speed a vert bow can keep up and exceed an xbow, did u happen to catch jim brunson shooting that  70lb 82nd at well over 400fps? i believe it was like more like 450+ on the cron, it was with a 200gr arrow but it just goes to show whats possible and there are quit a few bows out there now that hit 350+ with a hunting setup which surpasses most of the average xbows... sorry not trying to argue though it would make fun conversation</p></blockquote><p></p>