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<blockquote data-quote="Reedman" data-source="post: 4219827" data-attributes="member: 51533">The owners manual indicates &quot;solvents can discolor your Duty Finish. Kroil is recommended and Duty Finish safe. Oil based cleaner (polymer safe) for the rest of the gun...High quality gun oil such as FP-10, Militec-1, Mil-Comm TW25B Grease, Weapon Shield.&quot;I don&#039;t buy huge containers of cleaner or oils, so I don&#039;t mind at all using the same cleaner/oil that I bought for my DW for other guns I own. Figure if it works for DW, it should work for everything else too. And it simplifies my life, as there is no longer that nagging thought that &quot;what about the new magic cleaner/oil I just heard about that lasts for 10 years, guarantees 1/2&quot; groups at 50 yards and smells so good that my wife will want to use it as perfume and a skin softener.&quot;I don&#039;t use optics on my handguns, so I&#039;m not concerned with optic mounting issues.&nbsp; My sights were just fine out of the box, and in 15 months I have not experienced any major issues regarding feed/extraction issues that wasn&#039;t probably ammo related, or my slide hanging up. Consequently, I&#039;ve not felt the need to contact customer service. I like my Valor.I&#039;ve also seen lots of hand-wringing and groans on CZ/DW sites ever since CZ acquired DW, and now Colt, and now Seiller Bellot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reedman, post: 4219827, member: 51533"] The owners manual indicates "solvents can discolor your Duty Finish. Kroil is recommended and Duty Finish safe. Oil based cleaner (polymer safe) for the rest of the gun...High quality gun oil such as FP-10, Militec-1, Mil-Comm TW25B Grease, Weapon Shield." I don't buy huge containers of cleaner or oils, so I don't mind at all using the same cleaner/oil that I bought for my DW for other guns I own. Figure if it works for DW, it should work for everything else too. And it simplifies my life, as there is no longer that nagging thought that "what about the new magic cleaner/oil I just heard about that lasts for 10 years, guarantees 1/2" groups at 50 yards and smells so good that my wife will want to use it as perfume and a skin softener." I don't use optics on my handguns, so I'm not concerned with optic mounting issues. My sights were just fine out of the box, and in 15 months I have not experienced any major issues regarding feed/extraction issues that wasn't probably ammo related, or my slide hanging up. Consequently, I've not felt the need to contact customer service. I like my Valor. I've also seen lots of hand-wringing and groans on CZ/DW sites ever since CZ acquired DW, and now Colt, and now Seiller Bellot. [/QUOTE]

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