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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 1651108" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>That's always the funny thing on the hunting forum to me, and why I tend to take a jab now and then, just to see how people defend their position. If you're confident AND secure with the way you hunt, you ain't likely to fly off the handle at every criticism. Anyone who reads my posts here knows that I often say that if you're not taking a less-than-ideal shot every now and then, you ain't hunting hard enough. For example, I hunt in some areas of the woods that are thickern' snot. I can, have and will continue to shoot through brush with a rifle. Shots many people would not take. If someone wants to say I shouldn't take those shots, they can tell me as I'm dragging my deer out. I'd think 500 yard shooters would feel the same way...</p><p></p><p>These "less-than-ideal" situations are just something you slowly figure out on your own/gain confidence in. I sure wouldn't encourage a new hunter to take some of the shots I do. Get out there, put your time in, watch some deer and figure out what you can do. Then do it. Hunter ethics is a personal thing. If you have a conscience, you know if you're right or wrong. You shouldn't NEED internet feedback as validation. If you do, it looks like you doubt yourself. </p><p></p><p>Lastly, as far as the people that say you should <em>never</em> criticize another hunter's ethics as long as they are legal, let's throw this out there: There is no regulation/law saying you must shoot a deer in the vitals. I could go out and intentionally shoot deer in legs. If I came here bragging and posting pictures of leg pieces I've blown off intentionally, I bet everyone here would jump all over me (and rightfully so). Legal does not equal ethical...I guess this confusion is why they have to spell it out in hunter safety courses. Again, if you're not insecure about your methods, you're not likely to be bothered by claims of unethical conduct either. Defensiveness is a telling trait.</p><p></p><p>Ever see the Seinfeld where George is freaks out when one the woman doesn't like him? He must have everyone like him all the times or it makes him uneasy. Some of you guys are the George Costanzas of the woods.</p><p></p><p>If everyone who "hunted for themselves and not other people" actually did so...you'd never see anyone getting up in arms over the slightest perceived criticism. Now, go kill some deer. All of you, dammit. <img src="/images/smilies/biggrin.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 1651108, member: 4319"] That's always the funny thing on the hunting forum to me, and why I tend to take a jab now and then, just to see how people defend their position. If you're confident AND secure with the way you hunt, you ain't likely to fly off the handle at every criticism. Anyone who reads my posts here knows that I often say that if you're not taking a less-than-ideal shot every now and then, you ain't hunting hard enough. For example, I hunt in some areas of the woods that are thickern' snot. I can, have and will continue to shoot through brush with a rifle. Shots many people would not take. If someone wants to say I shouldn't take those shots, they can tell me as I'm dragging my deer out. I'd think 500 yard shooters would feel the same way... These "less-than-ideal" situations are just something you slowly figure out on your own/gain confidence in. I sure wouldn't encourage a new hunter to take some of the shots I do. Get out there, put your time in, watch some deer and figure out what you can do. Then do it. Hunter ethics is a personal thing. If you have a conscience, you know if you're right or wrong. You shouldn't NEED internet feedback as validation. If you do, it looks like you doubt yourself. Lastly, as far as the people that say you should [I]never[/I] criticize another hunter's ethics as long as they are legal, let's throw this out there: There is no regulation/law saying you must shoot a deer in the vitals. I could go out and intentionally shoot deer in legs. If I came here bragging and posting pictures of leg pieces I've blown off intentionally, I bet everyone here would jump all over me (and rightfully so). Legal does not equal ethical...I guess this confusion is why they have to spell it out in hunter safety courses. Again, if you're not insecure about your methods, you're not likely to be bothered by claims of unethical conduct either. Defensiveness is a telling trait. Ever see the Seinfeld where George is freaks out when one the woman doesn't like him? He must have everyone like him all the times or it makes him uneasy. Some of you guys are the George Costanzas of the woods. If everyone who "hunted for themselves and not other people" actually did so...you'd never see anyone getting up in arms over the slightest perceived criticism. Now, go kill some deer. All of you, dammit. :D [/QUOTE]
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