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<blockquote data-quote="CoronaBorealis" data-source="post: 4362602" data-attributes="member: 43847"><p>In your own words...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What does integrity and trust have to do with "doing good in the world"? If someone is holding a bake sale, do the two bakers have to share hidden knowledge with one another in order for the bake sale to raise money? "Mutual trust" and "doing good" are individually both very good ideals, but they are not mutually dependent.</p><p></p><p>If mutual trust is not necessary to "do good", what is the reason for such an <em><u><strong>exceptional</strong></u> </em>need for mutual trust among Masons? Soldiers need it because they are going into battle and their lives depend on one another. It is possible that Masons just want to be cool and part of something exclusive -- but no one claims that. </p><p></p><p>Thousands of people buried with the Masonic square and compass chiseled into their headstones wanted Freemasonry to be the last thing people remember them by. You're telling me they were just really excited about doing volunteer work? </p><p></p><p>I frankly don't care what hidden knowledge Masons claim to have -- go back and read every one of my posts. I never asked <strong>what</strong>, just <strong>why</strong>. My point with all of this is to point out the ridiculousness of claiming it's <strong><em>simply</em></strong> a charitable organization when in fact it could be charitable without all the furtiveness associated with membership. It just does not make any sense at all to someone looking at it critically. </p><p></p><p>Over and over again, Our Lord emphasized that there is <strong>one </strong>Church, <strong>one </strong>way, and <strong>one </strong>fold. Whatever else you want to claim, it is indisputable that Freemasonry promotes religious indifferentism, which is completely antithetical to what Our Lord taught. All the cultish rituals, symbology, and secretiveness aside, that fact alone should keep any person who believes in Christ away from Freemasonry. </p><p></p><p><em>And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build<strong> my Church</strong>, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Jesus said to him, “I am </em><strong><em>the</em></strong><em> way, <strong>the </strong>truth, and <strong>the </strong>life. No one comes to the Father but through me.” (John 14:6)</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>And other sheep I have that are not of this fold. Them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be <strong>one fold and one shepherd</strong>. (John 10:16)</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CoronaBorealis, post: 4362602, member: 43847"] In your own words... What does integrity and trust have to do with "doing good in the world"? If someone is holding a bake sale, do the two bakers have to share hidden knowledge with one another in order for the bake sale to raise money? "Mutual trust" and "doing good" are individually both very good ideals, but they are not mutually dependent. If mutual trust is not necessary to "do good", what is the reason for such an[B] [/B][I][U][B]exceptional[/B][/U][B] [/B][/I]need for mutual trust among Masons? Soldiers need it because they are going into battle and their lives depend on one another. It is possible that Masons just want to be cool and part of something exclusive -- but no one claims that. Thousands of people buried with the Masonic square and compass chiseled into their headstones wanted Freemasonry to be the last thing people remember them by. You're telling me they were just really excited about doing volunteer work? I frankly don't care what hidden knowledge Masons claim to have -- go back and read every one of my posts. I never asked [B]what[/B], just [B]why[/B]. My point with all of this is to point out the ridiculousness of claiming it's [B][I]simply[/I][/B][I][B] [/B][/I]a charitable organization when in fact it could be charitable without all the furtiveness associated with membership. It just does not make any sense at all to someone looking at it critically. Over and over again, Our Lord emphasized that there is [B]one [/B]Church, [B]one [/B]way, and [B]one [/B]fold. Whatever else you want to claim, it is indisputable that Freemasonry promotes religious indifferentism, which is completely antithetical to what Our Lord taught. All the cultish rituals, symbology, and secretiveness aside, that fact alone should keep any person who believes in Christ away from Freemasonry. [I]And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build[B] my Church[/B], and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18) Jesus said to him, “I am [/I][B][I]the[/I][/B][I] way, [B]the [/B]truth, and [B]the [/B]life. No one comes to the Father but through me.” (John 14:6) And other sheep I have that are not of this fold. Them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be [B]one fold and one shepherd[/B]. (John 10:16)[/I] [/QUOTE]
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