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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lone Wolf &#039;49" data-source="post: 1594273" data-attributes="member: 3016">I find that very interesting.  Have many friends up north and of course the upper Midwest especially Wis., Minn, and so forth where in the 1800's the foundation somewhat of manufacturing in the US of A was founded because of the Great Lakes and shipping.  Therefore, there and the steel working areas and auto building plus the associated supplier companies the unions thrived and had a purpose. As time has passed the companies in the good years, such as the fifties and the sixties there was no competition from overseas, so the companies went to the table with the unions and gave in always.  There was an article in the Atlantic Monthly many years ago addressing this fact. They gave in to every thing asked.  Then the Japanese began producing quality steel at a lower price and that is just one of the aspects that began the downfall of our economy.  Many other articles in most reliable publications later on suggest that the war in VN aided in the economy.  I worked for 28 years for one of those companies but it is food related  and HQ'd in MN.  They eventually did the same thing as the really big guys.  Let me put it this way, I was in Mgmt and union had pretty much the same way, but when my youngest daughter was born in 1981 I did not have to spend a cent.  I am just saying it is the fault of both sides, but tell me which side is the worst now?  Well before you before you flame me  for all of this, may be you should study history and not Google, again I am just sayin'.  There are so many articles out there before the internet came around and before the liberal and print media became as they are.  Thank you for reading my rant, I am an old fool, but have seen a lot.</blockquote>

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