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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 2180806" data-attributes="member: 229">Agreed if we were talking about an LEO or even Federal agencies that is supposed to be armed and chasing bad-guys that include American Citizens, but the DHS has somehow become &quot;America&#039;s National Police force&quot; without the title and that is where I have the ultimate problem with them being as wide-spread or massively armed or with the amounts of guns/ammo they&#039;re purchasing.&nbsp; They&#039;re essentially supposed to be catching spies and terrorists - which require a lot more intelligence-gathering and secretive operations than it does riot-gear, small-arms, and check-stations.&nbsp;&nbsp; It sure doesn&#039;t require the amount of &quot;troops on the ground&quot; and power in the US that they&#039;ve been accumulating en masse for a short period of time.&nbsp; I want the agencies employed by the US to be trained well and good marksman, but I don&#039;t know why we need so many agencies overlapping or trumping each others&#039; power.&nbsp; We&#039;ve increased the money, power, people, guns/ammo, etc. to all of these agencies and given up a lot of freedoms to make sure we&#039;re safe.&nbsp; Are we that much safer?The FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, etc. all have grown to far more than what they were originally intended - and we&#039;re passing laws to make sure our civil liberties don&#039;t trip them up on doing their job of... protecting our civil liberties...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 2180806, member: 229"] Agreed if we were talking about an LEO or even Federal agencies that is supposed to be armed and chasing bad-guys that include American Citizens, but the DHS has somehow become "America's National Police force" without the title and that is where I have the ultimate problem with them being as wide-spread or massively armed or with the amounts of guns/ammo they're purchasing. They're essentially supposed to be catching spies and terrorists - which require a lot more intelligence-gathering and secretive operations than it does riot-gear, small-arms, and check-stations. It sure doesn't require the amount of "troops on the ground" and power in the US that they've been accumulating en masse for a short period of time. I want the agencies employed by the US to be trained well and good marksman, but I don't know why we need so many agencies overlapping or trumping each others' power. We've increased the money, power, people, guns/ammo, etc. to all of these agencies and given up a lot of freedoms to make sure we're safe. Are we that much safer? The FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS, etc. all have grown to far more than what they were originally intended - and we're passing laws to make sure our civil liberties don't trip them up on doing their job of... protecting our civil liberties... [/QUOTE]

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