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<blockquote data-quote="mugsy" data-source="post: 2071142" data-attributes="member: 18914"><p>At yesterday's 2A rally in OKC, Moore's State Senator, Sen Dahm, briefly discussed that there are three "levels" of government - Federal, State, and the People (local government is nothing more than the creation and legal extension of State government). He was correct and I commend him for reminding us that there is more than Washington D.C. - even though it has a key, albeit limited and enumerated role.</p><p></p><p>However, the forum was not right for a more extended discussion so here's my two cents:</p><p></p><p>- The Constitution was designed with a mechanism for the States to directly influence Federal politics - the U.S. Senate. The original language of the Constitution called for Senators to be elected by the legislatures of their respective States. The Senate would be the place where the States could influence what Washington did. The House, of course, was for the people's direct influence, and the Presidency was for the people to indirectly select/influence.</p><p></p><p>In 1913 the 17th Amendment was ratified in an effort to "bring government closer to the people". It also had the secondary effect of dealing a body blow to the Federal system our Founder's created and counted upon to keep both States and Federal government in balance Many of you will note that much of the discussion we have on this board is about Federal over-reach, something that would be checked by a significant State influence in Washington - it is almost like the Founding Fathers actually thought through their governing structure and processes before instituting them.</p><p> </p><p>I believe that it would be in the national interest of the U.S. as a whole for the original mechanism and balance of the Constitution to be restored - and I thus feel the 17th Amendment should be repealed. Unlike our Liberal fellow-citizens, I also respect Constitutional processes so the only way to accomplish this is to follow the amendment process to repeal.</p><p></p><p>Please respond to my unscientific straw poll and add any comments you may have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mugsy, post: 2071142, member: 18914"] At yesterday's 2A rally in OKC, Moore's State Senator, Sen Dahm, briefly discussed that there are three "levels" of government - Federal, State, and the People (local government is nothing more than the creation and legal extension of State government). He was correct and I commend him for reminding us that there is more than Washington D.C. - even though it has a key, albeit limited and enumerated role. However, the forum was not right for a more extended discussion so here's my two cents: - The Constitution was designed with a mechanism for the States to directly influence Federal politics - the U.S. Senate. The original language of the Constitution called for Senators to be elected by the legislatures of their respective States. The Senate would be the place where the States could influence what Washington did. The House, of course, was for the people's direct influence, and the Presidency was for the people to indirectly select/influence. In 1913 the 17th Amendment was ratified in an effort to "bring government closer to the people". It also had the secondary effect of dealing a body blow to the Federal system our Founder's created and counted upon to keep both States and Federal government in balance Many of you will note that much of the discussion we have on this board is about Federal over-reach, something that would be checked by a significant State influence in Washington - it is almost like the Founding Fathers actually thought through their governing structure and processes before instituting them. I believe that it would be in the national interest of the U.S. as a whole for the original mechanism and balance of the Constitution to be restored - and I thus feel the 17th Amendment should be repealed. Unlike our Liberal fellow-citizens, I also respect Constitutional processes so the only way to accomplish this is to follow the amendment process to repeal. Please respond to my unscientific straw poll and add any comments you may have. [/QUOTE]
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