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<blockquote data-quote="lee1000" data-source="post: 2774985" data-attributes="member: 8506"><p>So your excuse is that you don't English Composition much?</p><p></p><p>FWIW, you didn't clarify anything, you muddied your own position. I therefore retract my statement, based on a misleading statement that was either intentional or unintentional on your part. I'm not sure at this point. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>BTW, nice deflection on the volunteerism! <img src="/images/smilies/thumb.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumb:" title="Thumb :thumb:" data-shortname=":thumb:" /></p></blockquote><p></p><p>'-------------------------------------------------------------------------------'</p><p></p><p><em>So your excuse is that you don't English Composition much?</em></p><p>I did not offer an excuse, I told you why I used quotation marks. </p><p></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I therefore retract my statement, based on a misleading statement that was either intentional or unintentional on your part. I'm not sure at this point. <img src="/images/smilies/frown.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-shortname=":(" /></em></p><p></p><p>I don't think many were mislead except you. And I was right, you made a bold and conscending statement that when put on the spot you could not back up.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>BTW, nice deflection on the volunteerism!</em></p><p></p><p>I did not deflect volunteerism. I choose training as a full time career. It does not pay much but I enjoy working with people and training and teaching. They leave with more information to make good decision regarding self defense and the use and purchase of guns whether for self defense, competition, or pleasure. Is there something wrong with this? <strong>Do you not get paid for you full time occupation? </strong></p><p>Regarding volunteerism - yes I volunteer for free. i did not choose to deflect but not add to the post. Whether your volunteerism if greater in importance than mine i do not know or care to know, how to you judge such a thing? But believe me when I tell you I have spend many hours and plan to continue to spend hours helping people. </p><p></p><p>I instruct for a fee to have income.</p><p></p><p>I also intruct for free because sometimes charging is not appropriate IMO.</p><p></p><p>You seem to think you know an awful lot about me just from my writings. Have we ever met?</p><p></p><p>So to state my opinion clearly again - I believe the 2nd Amendment gives everyone the right to be armed for self defense but I would like to see state required training before a person recieves their license. I belive in being practical especially after working with the untrained that a min amount of required training is a good thing. I do not believe EVERYONE should recieve a license just because they asked for one. </p><p></p><p>We expect our:</p><p>1. airplane pilots to be trained.</p><p>2. your bank teller to be trained</p><p>3. you a/c man to be trained</p><p>4. your police to be trained.</p><p>5. your county sheriffs to be trained.</p><p>6. your insurance man to be trained.</p><p>7. truck drivers to be trained.</p><p>8. your doctors to be trained.</p><p>9 your dentists to be trained.</p><p>and so on. </p><p></p><p><strong>Are you stating that you want a person to be issued a handgun license without any required trainng?</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Respectifully, unless you have taught the OK Handgun License class for many years, then I do not think you have seen the actions and attitudes of the untrained. </p><p></p><p>My opinion comes from my observations.</p><p></p><p>If your loved one is needlessly and carelessly killed by an untrained person, and while you are standing at the grave realize that you daughter's or son's life could have been spared if that person had been required to take a 7 hour course, then I feel you would opt to say you wished he had taken the training.</p><p></p><p>I'm done.[/QUOTE]</p><p>How many times have you volunteered to teach free gun safety classes? Someone who is of the opinion you are should be doing this weekly, and for free.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="lee1000, post: 2774985, member: 8506"] So your excuse is that you don't English Composition much? FWIW, you didn't clarify anything, you muddied your own position. I therefore retract my statement, based on a misleading statement that was either intentional or unintentional on your part. I'm not sure at this point. :( BTW, nice deflection on the volunteerism! :thumb:[/QUOTE] '-------------------------------------------------------------------------------' [I]So your excuse is that you don't English Composition much?[/I] I did not offer an excuse, I told you why I used quotation marks. [I] I therefore retract my statement, based on a misleading statement that was either intentional or unintentional on your part. I'm not sure at this point. :([/I] I don't think many were mislead except you. And I was right, you made a bold and conscending statement that when put on the spot you could not back up. [I]BTW, nice deflection on the volunteerism![/I] I did not deflect volunteerism. I choose training as a full time career. It does not pay much but I enjoy working with people and training and teaching. They leave with more information to make good decision regarding self defense and the use and purchase of guns whether for self defense, competition, or pleasure. Is there something wrong with this? [B]Do you not get paid for you full time occupation? [/B] Regarding volunteerism - yes I volunteer for free. i did not choose to deflect but not add to the post. Whether your volunteerism if greater in importance than mine i do not know or care to know, how to you judge such a thing? But believe me when I tell you I have spend many hours and plan to continue to spend hours helping people. I instruct for a fee to have income. I also intruct for free because sometimes charging is not appropriate IMO. You seem to think you know an awful lot about me just from my writings. Have we ever met? So to state my opinion clearly again - I believe the 2nd Amendment gives everyone the right to be armed for self defense but I would like to see state required training before a person recieves their license. I belive in being practical especially after working with the untrained that a min amount of required training is a good thing. I do not believe EVERYONE should recieve a license just because they asked for one. We expect our: 1. airplane pilots to be trained. 2. your bank teller to be trained 3. you a/c man to be trained 4. your police to be trained. 5. your county sheriffs to be trained. 6. your insurance man to be trained. 7. truck drivers to be trained. 8. your doctors to be trained. 9 your dentists to be trained. and so on. [B]Are you stating that you want a person to be issued a handgun license without any required trainng? [/B] Respectifully, unless you have taught the OK Handgun License class for many years, then I do not think you have seen the actions and attitudes of the untrained. My opinion comes from my observations. If your loved one is needlessly and carelessly killed by an untrained person, and while you are standing at the grave realize that you daughter's or son's life could have been spared if that person had been required to take a 7 hour course, then I feel you would opt to say you wished he had taken the training. I'm done.[/QUOTE] How many times have you volunteered to teach free gun safety classes? Someone who is of the opinion you are should be doing this weekly, and for free. [/QUOTE]
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