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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Furious_George" data-source="post: 1367595" data-attributes="member: 3263"><p>I'm on board with the diesel thing.  Think they kick the crap out of hybrids especially when those expensive batteries go out.  My 02 manual TDI Jetta gets 42/55mpg without really trying.  It has over 220k miles and hasn't had a single problem yet.  Picked it up for $4,500 fully loaded.  Its fuel economy doesn't even hold a candle to what they have in europe right now.  The Vauxhall Astra diesel gets 70mpg and it's a nice midsize car.  The VW Lupo gets over 90mpg, and you can run diesels on used vegetable oil from restaurants. When cars like that become more accessable, I think people will forget about hybrids until electric-only cars become reasonable.  I just don't see the point of hybrids right now.</p></blockquote><p></p>