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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OK Corgi Rancher" data-source="post: 4321676" data-attributes="member: 45773">There was a discussion on the forum some time ago about the effectiveness of .410 in bird shot sizes.  Those two were shot with #8 .410 shells.  Pretty much removed 2 or 3 inches from the middle of the one on the left.  I can assure anyone it's adequate for snakes.  I know these are small snakes but I've shot much larger rattlers (up to 3 or 4 feet long and substantial girth) with the same shot/gun in Idaho with pretty much the same effect.I guess the point is, small birdshot in .410 can be useful for more than just plinking.  And it's the cheapest .410 around that I can find.  Might not wanna try it on a grizzly, but for snakes it works just fine.</blockquote>