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Don Carlton Honda "sick and tired" of "homeless" causing problems (Tulsa)
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<blockquote data-quote="Firpo" data-source="post: 4014388" data-attributes="member: 45550"><p>I’ll defer to Christ’s teaching in Matthew 25</p><p></p><p>31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, just as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, but the goats on the left.</p><p></p><p>34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me <em>something</em> to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me <em>something</em> to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You <em>something</em> to drink? 38 And when did we see You <em>as</em> a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did <em>it</em> for one of the least of these brothers <em>or sisters</em> of Mine, you did <em>it</em> for Me.’</p><p></p><p>41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you accursed people, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or <em>as</em> a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not [<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=NASB#fen-NASB-24050i" target="_blank">i</a>]take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do <em>it</em> for one of the least of these, you did not do <em>it</em> for Me, either.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”</p><p></p><p>If this problem is ever to be solved we need to play the long game because there isn’t any quick fix. The solution would depend on the circumstances that caused the person to be homeless in the first place. I can tell you this, just driving them away isn’t going to do anything to solve the problem and to think it will is very shortsighted. In So Cal right next to the Angel Stadium there was a huge homeless encampment and the city of Anaheim had enough and drove them all out of the area which only kicked the can down the road for someone else to deal with. <a href="https://abc7.com/amp/orange-county-homeless-oc-encampments-anaheim/2977013/" target="_blank">Homeless encampment near Angel Stadium in Anaheim coming down | abc7.com</a></p><p>I believe this article states in the cleanup they found 4600 needles and over 315 tons of refuse. I know for a fact this created multiple smaller encampments in neighboring cities and the increase of Anaheim home invasions skyrocketed so be careful what you wish for. Makes me wonder how many people here have taken the time THEMSELVES to go down and speak with any homeless people because of you haven’t you’re passing judgment out of ignorance. Kind of like the liberal left screaming for harsher gun control when they know nothing about guns.</p><p>I think programs need to be multifaceted to deal with each individual person’s needs that solution also needs to be accompanied with some form of labor for those that are able. The Apostle Paul said “Lest a man work neither shall he eat” so free handouts for able bodied people isn’t a good answer. I know I’ve thrown a lot out there and to sum things up whatever is implemented should be focused on instilling these folks with a little pride and dignity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Firpo, post: 4014388, member: 45550"] I’ll defer to Christ’s teaching in Matthew 25 31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, just as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, but the goats on the left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me [I]something[/I] to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me [I]something[/I] to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in;36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You [I]something[/I] to drink? 38 And when did we see You [I]as[/I] a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did [I]it[/I] for one of the least of these brothers [I]or sisters[/I] of Mine, you did [I]it[/I] for Me.’ 41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you accursed people, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or [I]as[/I] a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not [[URL='https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025&version=NASB#fen-NASB-24050i']i[/URL]]take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do [I]it[/I] for one of the least of these, you did not do [I]it[/I] for Me, either.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” If this problem is ever to be solved we need to play the long game because there isn’t any quick fix. The solution would depend on the circumstances that caused the person to be homeless in the first place. I can tell you this, just driving them away isn’t going to do anything to solve the problem and to think it will is very shortsighted. In So Cal right next to the Angel Stadium there was a huge homeless encampment and the city of Anaheim had enough and drove them all out of the area which only kicked the can down the road for someone else to deal with. [URL='https://abc7.com/amp/orange-county-homeless-oc-encampments-anaheim/2977013/']Homeless encampment near Angel Stadium in Anaheim coming down | abc7.com[/URL] I believe this article states in the cleanup they found 4600 needles and over 315 tons of refuse. I know for a fact this created multiple smaller encampments in neighboring cities and the increase of Anaheim home invasions skyrocketed so be careful what you wish for. Makes me wonder how many people here have taken the time THEMSELVES to go down and speak with any homeless people because of you haven’t you’re passing judgment out of ignorance. Kind of like the liberal left screaming for harsher gun control when they know nothing about guns. I think programs need to be multifaceted to deal with each individual person’s needs that solution also needs to be accompanied with some form of labor for those that are able. The Apostle Paul said “Lest a man work neither shall he eat” so free handouts for able bodied people isn’t a good answer. I know I’ve thrown a lot out there and to sum things up whatever is implemented should be focused on instilling these folks with a little pride and dignity. [/QUOTE]
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