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<blockquote data-quote="KurtM" data-source="post: 790328" data-attributes="member: 6064"><p>DPMS doesn't make two grades of bolts, carriers, or barrels. The Sportical is less expensive due to less features, not lower quality parts. To say some DPMS rifles are ok and others not simply isn't acknowledging the fact that they all get the same stuff. Of all the stuff you guys have listed ONLY Saber makes most all of it's own parts.</p><p></p><p>When I give rifle/cabine classes I usually see the D rifles almost always are trouble free no matter what "level" people may think they have. If your AR feeds well and the barrel is as accurate as you are and you MAINTAIN it, most any of them will be just fine for any class/competition/hard use. BTW one of the "high end rifles" mentioned uses DPMS bolts, carriers and trigger groups. Many of the high end small builders make "factory franken guns", but like sausage since you don't see it being made, it got to be good cause it says Jimmy Dean instead of Homelands Best.</p><p></p><p>I love how some of these things get started. I was standing with one of the guys who actually make the carbine STI sells, at the shot show looking at one of the STI guns, A guy comes up and whispers to us that "you don't want one of those, they use Green Mountain barrels. Those have been known to blow up and none of them are accurate". Guy I was with said I am pretty sure they don't use Green Mountain barrels, where did you hear that. He quietly said "I have a friend that works at STI who buils the carbines and he told me". Funny part is that rifle isn't made anywhere near Texas or STI. We both just smiled and said thanks for the warning. I know of one manufacturer who says he loves when Colt runs low on parts and comes shopping cause they are spending Government money. And so it all goes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KurtM, post: 790328, member: 6064"] DPMS doesn't make two grades of bolts, carriers, or barrels. The Sportical is less expensive due to less features, not lower quality parts. To say some DPMS rifles are ok and others not simply isn't acknowledging the fact that they all get the same stuff. Of all the stuff you guys have listed ONLY Saber makes most all of it's own parts. When I give rifle/cabine classes I usually see the D rifles almost always are trouble free no matter what "level" people may think they have. If your AR feeds well and the barrel is as accurate as you are and you MAINTAIN it, most any of them will be just fine for any class/competition/hard use. BTW one of the "high end rifles" mentioned uses DPMS bolts, carriers and trigger groups. Many of the high end small builders make "factory franken guns", but like sausage since you don't see it being made, it got to be good cause it says Jimmy Dean instead of Homelands Best. I love how some of these things get started. I was standing with one of the guys who actually make the carbine STI sells, at the shot show looking at one of the STI guns, A guy comes up and whispers to us that "you don't want one of those, they use Green Mountain barrels. Those have been known to blow up and none of them are accurate". Guy I was with said I am pretty sure they don't use Green Mountain barrels, where did you hear that. He quietly said "I have a friend that works at STI who buils the carbines and he told me". Funny part is that rifle isn't made anywhere near Texas or STI. We both just smiled and said thanks for the warning. I know of one manufacturer who says he loves when Colt runs low on parts and comes shopping cause they are spending Government money. And so it all goes. [/QUOTE]
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