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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3202140" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Don't think a standard 4" french drain will help you with the amount of water in the last pic unless you use something like an 8" pipe that you would have to drill yourself and then bury it in a large rock (1 1/2 - 2" rock) swale that would direct the water to your drain pipe and allow quick drainage.</p></blockquote><p></p>