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Message: <blockquote data-quote="donner" data-source="post: 1326781" data-attributes="member: 277">If you didn't have a stop sign then that guy is itching to be a hood ornament. All traffic laws apply to cyclists, as well as cars. I admit, though, that I, as a cyclist, sometimes roll stop signs. I'm not saying i do it to break the law and I never do it unless each car at the sign has waved me through. It takes me longer to go from stop to speed and if i can keep rolling then it helps maintain the flow of traffic if i keep moving (this is amplified in group rides since you might have 10+ riders have to stop and start). Another problem is that stoplights often don't sense when a rider is stopped at it, so there are few options but to cross against the red. Neither of the instances are something that i like to do and never at full speed, but are sometimes necessary to maintain my safety and for the sheer logistics of it. Before i got into cycling, i always heard motorcyclists say things like i said above, or about how to have to move up through traffic to make sure the person behind you doesn't jump the gun and run over you (etc). I never really understood a lot of it until now.</blockquote>