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<blockquote data-quote="billt" data-source="post: 3326519" data-attributes="member: 5188"><p>Again you're missing the point. <strong>It's not the speed or the range, it's the recharge time.</strong> Try driving a Tesla, or any other modern electric vehicle across the country. You'll never make it. Even Tesla's so called, "fast charge stations" takes forever, compared to filling a fuel tank. And you have a limited amount of times you can fast charge the battery packs without damaging their service life.</p><p></p><p>Which brings up another point. How much is a battery replacement on these things? It's several thousand dollars, even with a core reimbursement. Then, as I mentioned, <strong>what about heating and cooling the thing?</strong> You'll have to use resistance heating. That takes as much energy as it does to power the vehicle.</p><p></p><p>The average hair dryer consumes 1,500 to 1,850 Watts. Now try heating a vehicle with one, and defrosting the windows in Fargo, North Dakota in January, when it's -20F. These are real world conditions people live in every day. Electric vehicles are useless under these conditions.</p><p></p><p>It's no different with A/C. Even worse because you'll have to use battery energy to power electric motors to turn both the compressor and fans, with no way to replace that energy. It's a losing battle to try to turn an alternator with a battery powered electric motor. And a KERS System like a Formula 1 car uses only works during braking. So on a freeway they are useless. Just as they are on a straightaway on a F1 track.</p><p></p><p>And battery efficiency, not to mention life, is greatly reduced in extreme temperature climates, when you'll need both heat and A/C the most. Then there is towing. They are completely useless for pulling anything. No matter how you look at this it is a losing battle. It's not just range. That's just the tip of the iceberg. And it's idiotic to compare Diesel / Electric locomotives to battery powered automobiles. The fuel capacity of an average size Diesel locomotive is 2,500 GALLONS. The large mining draglines are even larger.</p><p></p><p>If you live in San Diego and want to get your wife one, so she can drive to the market and her favorite nail salon, fine. But for driving any kind of long distances, it's never going to happen. Too much energy demand, and no way to produce it, let alone put it back in a timely fashion.</p><p></p><p>Your claim to fame is, eventually they <strong>might</strong> come up with something. But the problem is eventually we'll all be dead. We live in the here and now... And a Glock 21 pistol uses the same type of ammunition, along with a similarly designed slide, recoil spring, and barrel as a 1911.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billt, post: 3326519, member: 5188"] Again you're missing the point. [B]It's not the speed or the range, it's the recharge time.[/B] Try driving a Tesla, or any other modern electric vehicle across the country. You'll never make it. Even Tesla's so called, "fast charge stations" takes forever, compared to filling a fuel tank. And you have a limited amount of times you can fast charge the battery packs without damaging their service life. Which brings up another point. How much is a battery replacement on these things? It's several thousand dollars, even with a core reimbursement. Then, as I mentioned, [B]what about heating and cooling the thing?[/B] You'll have to use resistance heating. That takes as much energy as it does to power the vehicle. The average hair dryer consumes 1,500 to 1,850 Watts. Now try heating a vehicle with one, and defrosting the windows in Fargo, North Dakota in January, when it's -20F. These are real world conditions people live in every day. Electric vehicles are useless under these conditions. It's no different with A/C. Even worse because you'll have to use battery energy to power electric motors to turn both the compressor and fans, with no way to replace that energy. It's a losing battle to try to turn an alternator with a battery powered electric motor. And a KERS System like a Formula 1 car uses only works during braking. So on a freeway they are useless. Just as they are on a straightaway on a F1 track. And battery efficiency, not to mention life, is greatly reduced in extreme temperature climates, when you'll need both heat and A/C the most. Then there is towing. They are completely useless for pulling anything. No matter how you look at this it is a losing battle. It's not just range. That's just the tip of the iceberg. And it's idiotic to compare Diesel / Electric locomotives to battery powered automobiles. The fuel capacity of an average size Diesel locomotive is 2,500 GALLONS. The large mining draglines are even larger. If you live in San Diego and want to get your wife one, so she can drive to the market and her favorite nail salon, fine. But for driving any kind of long distances, it's never going to happen. Too much energy demand, and no way to produce it, let alone put it back in a timely fashion. Your claim to fame is, eventually they [B]might[/B] come up with something. But the problem is eventually we'll all be dead. We live in the here and now... And a Glock 21 pistol uses the same type of ammunition, along with a similarly designed slide, recoil spring, and barrel as a 1911. [/QUOTE]
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