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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 4347384" data-attributes="member: 5412">Back before I retired, we worked with ABB to develop a new software for our control systems at the power plant. One of their programmers and I became friends. When we were in Cleveland at their HQ for training on it, found out he was part of a group of good hackers that met in a building they rented. The place looked like a data center with all the servers and computers. They actively searched out hackers, hacked into their accounts and killed their computers with electronic "bullets". The folks in that group were geniuses at ABB and took those skills out to do good.</blockquote>