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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 3313061" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>HP38 and 231 come from ST Marks plant in Florida.</p><p>They are the same powder and One guy posted he got 231 and HP 38 at the same time and they had the same lot numbers.</p><p></p><p>As we all know powders can vary from lot to lot.</p><p>ST Marks makes ball powders only and there are many that are the same.</p><p>Like 414 and 760</p><p>Code:</p><p>Powders from 2009 MSDS sheets (some newer MSDS sheets lack the powder name information due to</p><p>changes in MSDS requirement regulations).</p><p></p><p>Note that bulk grade versions have wider burn rate specs and can vary significantly from the</p><p>canister grades, which are controlled for burn rate by blending with held back fast or slow</p><p>lots, as needed to adjust them to within ±3% of their nominal burn rates.</p><p></p><p> Canister | Bulk Grade | Canister | Canister | Canister |</p><p> Grade | | Grade | Grade | Grade |</p><p> | St. Marks | | | |</p><p> Hodgdon | Mil & OEM | Winchester | Thales | IMR |</p><p>___________________|__Numbers___|________________________|__(ADI)___|______________________|_</p><p> | | | | |</p><p>HP-38--------------|-- OBP231 --|- 231 ------------------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p> | OBP124 | AALite (WFL) | | |</p><p>Titewad | OBP132 | | | |</p><p>Tightgroup --------|-- OBP242 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p> | OBP465 | Super-Handicap (WSH) | | |</p><p>Longshot | OBP473 | | | |</p><p>Lil' Gun ----------|-- OBP516 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p>Hybrid 100V | SHP771 | | | |</p><p> | SMP224 | AutoComp | | |</p><p>-------------------|--- WAA90 --|- WST ------------------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p>H110 | WC296 | 296 | | |</p><p>HS-6 | WC540 | 540 | | |</p><p>HS-7 | WC571 | 571 | | |</p><p>-------------------|--- WC748 --|- 748 ------------------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p>H414 | WC760 | 760 | | |</p><p>H335 | WC844 | | | |</p><p>BL-C(2)------------|--- WC846 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p>H380 | WC852 | | | |</p><p>US869 | WC869 | | | |</p><p>-------------------|-- WMR780 --|- Supreme 780 ----------|----------|----------------------|-</p><p> | WXC170 | WSF | | |</p><p>Clays | | | AS30N | |</p><p>International Clays|------------|------------------------|- AS50N --|----------------------|-</p><p>Universal Clays | | | AP70N | |</p><p>H4227 | | | AR2205 |IMR 4227 second source|</p><p>H4198 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2207 -|----------------------|-</p><p> | | | BM1 | |</p><p>H322 | | | AR2219 | |</p><p>Benchmark | | | BM2 | |</p><p>-------------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2210 -|- IMR 8208 XBR -------|-</p><p>H4895 | | | AR2206H | |</p><p>Varget | | | AR2208 | |</p><p>H4350 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2209 -|----------------------|-</p><p>H4831 | | | AR2213 | |</p><p>H4831SC | | | AR2213SC | |</p><p>H1000 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2217 -|----------------------|-</p><p>Retumbo | | | AR2225 | |</p><p>H50BMG | | | AR2218 | |</p><p>-------------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2215 -|IMR 4198 second source|</p><p> | | | AS25BP |IMR Trail Boss |</p><p>__________________</p><p></p><p>Looked better on this link.</p><p><a href="http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=245283" target="_blank">http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=245283</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 3313061, member: 15054"] HP38 and 231 come from ST Marks plant in Florida. They are the same powder and One guy posted he got 231 and HP 38 at the same time and they had the same lot numbers. As we all know powders can vary from lot to lot. ST Marks makes ball powders only and there are many that are the same. Like 414 and 760 Code: Powders from 2009 MSDS sheets (some newer MSDS sheets lack the powder name information due to changes in MSDS requirement regulations). Note that bulk grade versions have wider burn rate specs and can vary significantly from the canister grades, which are controlled for burn rate by blending with held back fast or slow lots, as needed to adjust them to within ±3% of their nominal burn rates. Canister | Bulk Grade | Canister | Canister | Canister | Grade | | Grade | Grade | Grade | | St. Marks | | | | Hodgdon | Mil & OEM | Winchester | Thales | IMR | ___________________|__Numbers___|________________________|__(ADI)___|______________________|_ | | | | | HP-38--------------|-- OBP231 --|- 231 ------------------|----------|----------------------|- | OBP124 | AALite (WFL) | | | Titewad | OBP132 | | | | Tightgroup --------|-- OBP242 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|- | OBP465 | Super-Handicap (WSH) | | | Longshot | OBP473 | | | | Lil' Gun ----------|-- OBP516 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|- Hybrid 100V | SHP771 | | | | | SMP224 | AutoComp | | | -------------------|--- WAA90 --|- WST ------------------|----------|----------------------|- H110 | WC296 | 296 | | | HS-6 | WC540 | 540 | | | HS-7 | WC571 | 571 | | | -------------------|--- WC748 --|- 748 ------------------|----------|----------------------|- H414 | WC760 | 760 | | | H335 | WC844 | | | | BL-C(2)------------|--- WC846 --|------------------------|----------|----------------------|- H380 | WC852 | | | | US869 | WC869 | | | | -------------------|-- WMR780 --|- Supreme 780 ----------|----------|----------------------|- | WXC170 | WSF | | | Clays | | | AS30N | | International Clays|------------|------------------------|- AS50N --|----------------------|- Universal Clays | | | AP70N | | H4227 | | | AR2205 |IMR 4227 second source| H4198 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2207 -|----------------------|- | | | BM1 | | H322 | | | AR2219 | | Benchmark | | | BM2 | | -------------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2210 -|- IMR 8208 XBR -------|- H4895 | | | AR2206H | | Varget | | | AR2208 | | H4350 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2209 -|----------------------|- H4831 | | | AR2213 | | H4831SC | | | AR2213SC | | H1000 -------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2217 -|----------------------|- Retumbo | | | AR2225 | | H50BMG | | | AR2218 | | -------------------|------------|------------------------|- AR2215 -|IMR 4198 second source| | | | AS25BP |IMR Trail Boss | __________________ Looked better on this link. [URL]http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=245283[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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