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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 2259884" data-attributes="member: 1132">Certainly not all of it is victimless, but how can a consumer outwardly determine that by viewing the end result? One person&#039;s degradation and perversion is another person&#039;s fetish and fantasy. The only instances I can think of are children and animals. In those cases, most of it is not purchased, it&#039;s &quot;shared&quot; through illicit networks. Even if there weren&#039;t people willing to view it, I really don&#039;t think that&#039;s the motivation for those who produce it.They&#039;d do it for personal viewing even if they never shared it with a soul. Id be willing to bet theres far more in private collections than ever sees the light of day in the internet.&nbsp; To me, these investigations should focus on the producer. Ive heard the argument that the consumer is facilitating and furthering the abuse, but I just dont buy it. The producer that harms the innocent would do it regardless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 2259884, member: 1132"] Certainly not all of it is victimless, but how can a consumer outwardly determine that by viewing the end result? One person's degradation and perversion is another person's fetish and fantasy. The only instances I can think of are children and animals. In those cases, most of it is not purchased, it's "shared" through illicit networks. Even if there weren't people willing to view it, I really don't think that's the motivation for those who produce it. They'd do it for personal viewing even if they never shared it with a soul. Id be willing to bet theres far more in private collections than ever sees the light of day in the internet. To me, these investigations should focus on the producer. Ive heard the argument that the consumer is facilitating and furthering the abuse, but I just dont buy it. The producer that harms the innocent would do it regardless. [/QUOTE]

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