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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 2120960" data-attributes="member: 24">It&#039;s not the same but no less significant, one will eventually affect the other yes?&nbsp; Debts are accumulated deficits.&nbsp; I&#039;m going to say that each presidency needs to be looked at objectively before superficially comparing numbers.&nbsp; So comparing Clinton, (who wasn&#039;t all that)Bush, Reagan, etc doesn&#039;t relieve Obama of any responsibility.&nbsp; In which, anyone with half a brain could see that Romney was light years closer to this mentality than Obama ever was.&nbsp; All of this is moot IMO, nobody in their right mind can say we are headed on the right track on fiscal matters in this country.&nbsp; WE are an embarassment, from top to bottom and he&#039;s our leader.&nbsp; He had four years, and initially a dem controlled congress and he&#039;s done jack schitt outside of pile up taxes, legislature, and regulations.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just because we might drop a few fractions of a precentage points on some chart, doesn&#039;t reflect what&#039;s going on in the real world.&nbsp; Do you see leadership on fiscal matters?&nbsp; budget? energy policy?&nbsp; foreign policy?&nbsp; All of these aspects tie into our economy and no matter what way it&#039;s spun, it&#039;s disgusting to see Obama and all of his supporters do all the fingerpointing.&nbsp; I dunno about you, but in oversimplified terms, Dad would still give me swats no matter what my sister, cousins, or friends did or used to do.&nbsp; I was held accountable for my actions and there wasn&#039;t any getting out of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JD8, post: 2120960, member: 24"] It's not the same but no less significant, one will eventually affect the other yes? Debts are accumulated deficits. I'm going to say that each presidency needs to be looked at objectively before superficially comparing numbers. So comparing Clinton, (who wasn't all that)Bush, Reagan, etc doesn't relieve Obama of any responsibility. In which, anyone with half a brain could see that Romney was light years closer to this mentality than Obama ever was. All of this is moot IMO, nobody in their right mind can say we are headed on the right track on fiscal matters in this country. WE are an embarassment, from top to bottom and he's our leader. He had four years, and initially a dem controlled congress and he's done jack schitt outside of pile up taxes, legislature, and regulations. Just because we might drop a few fractions of a precentage points on some chart, doesn't reflect what's going on in the real world. Do you see leadership on fiscal matters? budget? energy policy? foreign policy? All of these aspects tie into our economy and no matter what way it's spun, it's disgusting to see Obama and all of his supporters do all the fingerpointing. I dunno about you, but in oversimplified terms, Dad would still give me swats no matter what my sister, cousins, or friends did or used to do. I was held accountable for my actions and there wasn't any getting out of it. [/QUOTE]

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