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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 2867572" data-attributes="member: 5412">Ammo is going to be one of the deciding factors if your shooting long range. Even at 100 yds ammo will make one heck of a difference. For example, as a hand loader I have the ultimate QC over how my rounds are loaded. A couple of weeks ago we had a rifle match that was everything from 7 yds to 300 yds in the same match. I tried two different 55 grain bullets using the same powder, brand of brass, dies, etc. The Speer was lucky to hold a group smaller than 3" at 100 yds, the sierra bullet was at 3/4".At 300 yds on paper, the Speer was minute of a 12" circle at best. It was flying everywhere. The Sierra held its group at 2 1/2" consistently. It might have been better, but I was shooting off of a single bag on the handguard, and my hand under the buttstock. What I could have done with the speer is to tailor that bullet to a load that would have likely made it into a tack driver as well, but since the Sierra did so well, and I have a lot of those laying around, I went with the Sierra. When that's gone, there is a box of 1000 Hornady 55 grain that will need to be tailored to the rifle.Just for the record, The 55 grain Sierra's didn't shoot well in my M4 carbine, same twist. The M4 loves .45 grain varmint loads.Guns have personalities. Something you have to live with.If one just goes around finding cheap ammo and expecting the rifle to shoot like a tack driver, they will be disappointed.I use a fixed 3 Power scope on the 300 yd range that is on the M4 to ring steel. Its a 12" plate. Pretty obvious when its hit. Another AR has a 3X9 to shoot paper and steel at 300 as well. Even though you can't see the hit on paper, you keep point of aim, and have to walk/drive down to see how it grouped, unless you have a really great spotting scope, and those aren't cheap.</blockquote>

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