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<blockquote data-quote="Rez Exelon" data-source="post: 3500219" data-attributes="member: 5800"><p>Good question but a tough one to answer. [USER=45841]@Les Carter[/USER] and [USER=6146]@cjjtulsa[/USER] are definitely right on the magazines. But as to the question of firearms themselves it gets a little trickier.</p><p></p><p>First point to makes would be that you have to be: 1 - very knowledgeable in the market, and 2 - willing to take a risk like any other investment. I assume that based on the question you're the type that values market research, but to point 2 here, you also have to realize that <em>even if you picked all the perfect guns to invest in the government could make them worthless.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>All that said, there are a couple of categories:</p><p></p><p>1. Stuff that has been banned in the past - These items have a higher than average likelihood of being restricted in the future so they stand to go up in value more, but also stand to lost the most if they are banned outright in a manner like DJT let bump stocks get reclassified. Some examples here would be "assault weapons" like from the last ban. Saiga shotguns that are banned from import, or even stuff like 50 BMG rifles that are banned in California IIRC.</p><p>2. Accessories and Ammo - yeah, I'm cheating here putting this up when I said I was going to focus on guns themselves, but it is a big category, and in regular times easy to get a hold of. Since these "scares" are on relatively predicable cycles, then you can take a short term risk buying when supply is up and then marking up in a scare time. I've sold some ammo for instance recently that I got low, but I also sold it here UNDER market rate because I'm not trying to be a greedy scalper.</p><p>3. Oddballs - This is a subjective category, but look for what has potential but not a lot of people see it. A great recent example is the Beretta ARX-100. These were advertised, pretty good etc IMHO but never caught on. Production stopped, and once stores quit carrying them price jumped from 800 at Academy to 1200-1600 in used listings. This is a hard one because not all oddballs go up in value.</p><p>4. Automatics - This should be an easy one. There's a very finite supply of legal automatics, and they're going to break down, get confiscated, etc etc. That means less supply and more demand. They will only go up, but you better be willing to pay the piper to get in the game. Last I checked an M16 started around $50,000, and things like Mac-10's or whatever were around $8,000+.</p><p>5. Random Deals (my favorite) - Just be on the lookout for anyone selling anything under value. This is the least risky if you know the market. And the most fun because you get to play with lots of stuff cheap. Let's say a Glock 22 is selling for 450 on Armslist in normal times, in scare markets it can be 650. If you see on for legitimate sale for 325, then you can jump on it. You know you'll be able to get <em>at least</em> your money back, and possibly double or more.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Also something super important, is that if you are considering them as an investment it is CRITICAL to make sure you are investing in reloading equipment, reloading <em>experience</em> and reloading supplies. Guns are nothing without ammo, and that can be just as shutdown as anything else. </p><p></p><p>Anyone can add on to this if I've missed something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rez Exelon, post: 3500219, member: 5800"] Good question but a tough one to answer. [USER=45841]@Les Carter[/USER] and [USER=6146]@cjjtulsa[/USER] are definitely right on the magazines. But as to the question of firearms themselves it gets a little trickier. First point to makes would be that you have to be: 1 - very knowledgeable in the market, and 2 - willing to take a risk like any other investment. I assume that based on the question you're the type that values market research, but to point 2 here, you also have to realize that [I]even if you picked all the perfect guns to invest in the government could make them worthless. [/I] All that said, there are a couple of categories: 1. Stuff that has been banned in the past - These items have a higher than average likelihood of being restricted in the future so they stand to go up in value more, but also stand to lost the most if they are banned outright in a manner like DJT let bump stocks get reclassified. Some examples here would be "assault weapons" like from the last ban. Saiga shotguns that are banned from import, or even stuff like 50 BMG rifles that are banned in California IIRC. 2. Accessories and Ammo - yeah, I'm cheating here putting this up when I said I was going to focus on guns themselves, but it is a big category, and in regular times easy to get a hold of. Since these "scares" are on relatively predicable cycles, then you can take a short term risk buying when supply is up and then marking up in a scare time. I've sold some ammo for instance recently that I got low, but I also sold it here UNDER market rate because I'm not trying to be a greedy scalper. 3. Oddballs - This is a subjective category, but look for what has potential but not a lot of people see it. A great recent example is the Beretta ARX-100. These were advertised, pretty good etc IMHO but never caught on. Production stopped, and once stores quit carrying them price jumped from 800 at Academy to 1200-1600 in used listings. This is a hard one because not all oddballs go up in value. 4. Automatics - This should be an easy one. There's a very finite supply of legal automatics, and they're going to break down, get confiscated, etc etc. That means less supply and more demand. They will only go up, but you better be willing to pay the piper to get in the game. Last I checked an M16 started around $50,000, and things like Mac-10's or whatever were around $8,000+. 5. Random Deals (my favorite) - Just be on the lookout for anyone selling anything under value. This is the least risky if you know the market. And the most fun because you get to play with lots of stuff cheap. Let's say a Glock 22 is selling for 450 on Armslist in normal times, in scare markets it can be 650. If you see on for legitimate sale for 325, then you can jump on it. You know you'll be able to get [I]at least[/I] your money back, and possibly double or more. EDIT: Also something super important, is that if you are considering them as an investment it is CRITICAL to make sure you are investing in reloading equipment, reloading [I]experience[/I] and reloading supplies. Guns are nothing without ammo, and that can be just as shutdown as anything else. Anyone can add on to this if I've missed something. [/QUOTE]
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