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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 2958587" data-attributes="member: 5412">I'm in agreement here^^^. I put a fast fire III on my Ruger hunter, and kept losing the 3MOA dot on Steel Challenge. Shot three matches along with several practice days, and just could not keep from losing the dot because it felt like I had to keep the muzzle forced down to see the dot. Went back to the old Bushnell Trophy tube type with the dot surrounded by a circle. My grip angle feels comfortable. Looks like a tank up there, but it works for me.</blockquote>