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<blockquote data-quote="sumerian1" data-source="post: 1419166" data-attributes="member: 16541"><p>Hey guys, I'm from Tulsa and shoot at Tulsa xxxxx Sometimes I come to OKC to visit relatives. I brought my M&P40 this weekend and stopped in on Saturday at H&H. First impressions were definitely good. Yes, I also noticed that they were charging 'new' prices on used guns and some of the new guns were under MSRP, while others were above. I know there are other places to buy for less, but you will have to travel to get there. Any large successful busines with an FFL will need to charge ample prices to keep such a NICE and LARGE facility going. No complaints here. We need to keep these guys in business so WE stay in business.</p><p></p><p>Also, I waited an hour to shoot at H&H. Lots of business with definitely lots of shooters, which is a good thing. Wow! Did not know I could Rapid-Fire at the range. I've been trained on over 25 feet away, shoot, count to 3 and shoot again. Rapid fire is restricted to handguns only and no rifle rapid fire. There is no 'draw and fire' allowed, as to do so requires pointing the barrel away from down range, to put it in your draw holster, which also increases the odds of having a ND. Still, though, rapid fire at the riange showed to myself that I am lousy at rapid fire. 3 shots quickly requires a steady eye and hand, with a smooth trigger action and pull/follow through. Because of what I learned from doing this, makes me angry that so many places won't let you shoot this way. There is a local (in Tulsa) that most everyone goes to and they won't let you shoot rapid fire. Red Castle on the other hand is outdoors and WILL allow you to rapid fire, but they are WAYYYYYYY out in the boonies and takes you quite the while and driving to get there.</p><p>What is up with Tulsa area ranges that they won't let you rapid fire? I would like for someone, if they know the answer here, to reply to this and explain why this is so. Is it a city ordinance? Red Castle is out of the city limits, so I suspect that it is a city ordinance. If not, please explain.</p><p>Thanks to whomever can address this question in advance.</p><p>-sumerian1</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sumerian1, post: 1419166, member: 16541"] Hey guys, I'm from Tulsa and shoot at Tulsa xxxxx Sometimes I come to OKC to visit relatives. I brought my M&P40 this weekend and stopped in on Saturday at H&H. First impressions were definitely good. Yes, I also noticed that they were charging 'new' prices on used guns and some of the new guns were under MSRP, while others were above. I know there are other places to buy for less, but you will have to travel to get there. Any large successful busines with an FFL will need to charge ample prices to keep such a NICE and LARGE facility going. No complaints here. We need to keep these guys in business so WE stay in business. Also, I waited an hour to shoot at H&H. Lots of business with definitely lots of shooters, which is a good thing. Wow! Did not know I could Rapid-Fire at the range. I've been trained on over 25 feet away, shoot, count to 3 and shoot again. Rapid fire is restricted to handguns only and no rifle rapid fire. There is no 'draw and fire' allowed, as to do so requires pointing the barrel away from down range, to put it in your draw holster, which also increases the odds of having a ND. Still, though, rapid fire at the riange showed to myself that I am lousy at rapid fire. 3 shots quickly requires a steady eye and hand, with a smooth trigger action and pull/follow through. Because of what I learned from doing this, makes me angry that so many places won't let you shoot this way. There is a local (in Tulsa) that most everyone goes to and they won't let you shoot rapid fire. Red Castle on the other hand is outdoors and WILL allow you to rapid fire, but they are WAYYYYYYY out in the boonies and takes you quite the while and driving to get there. What is up with Tulsa area ranges that they won't let you rapid fire? I would like for someone, if they know the answer here, to reply to this and explain why this is so. Is it a city ordinance? Red Castle is out of the city limits, so I suspect that it is a city ordinance. If not, please explain. Thanks to whomever can address this question in advance. -sumerian1 [/QUOTE]
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