esee knives is the collaboration between RAT/ESEE and rowen mfg. ontario and a couple others made rat knives. rat cutlery/esee knives have always been made by rowen. except for the Becker-designed kitchen knives, and a few folder prototypes.
Right, but before Rowen manufactured knives for RAT Cutlery, RAT used a few other makers (I'm talking way back in the early days):
http://www.eseeknives.com/history.htm
Randall's Adventure Training ® has been designing, marketing and selling survival and military styled knives since 1997. One of our first designs was the RTAK which was built by Newt Livesay's Wicked Knife Company long before Ontario Knife Company produced the design. We also produced and sold the RAT skinning / survival knife made by John Greco, and the RAT Laser Strike knife made by TOPS (We have since re-introduced the Laser Strike as an ESEE knife). Randall's Adventure Training ® also designed the following knives for Ontario Knife Company: RTAK II, TAK, RAT-7, RAT-5, RAT-3, Model 1 folder and the Model II folder (Model II folder is being released in the Spring of 2013).
That being said the Jeff Randall quote pretty much clears up the "is it an ESEE or not" question. I actually remember seeing that post a long time ago on Jungle Forums when they were first talking about the Zancudo, but for some reason I couldn't find it when searching the other night (I was primarily searching blade forums because I thought I saw it over there).
No ESEE marketing, warranty, etc. though, but that's how the RAT-1 and RAT-2 were, so no big deal for a $30 Taiwan budget knife.
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