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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ZombieHunter" data-source="post: 2095990" data-attributes="member: 5791">Ya I have tried to find some musicians who just want to play but everyone wants to be paid to play their instrument and as for drummers, that up above is Superior Drummer Midi Programming done by a drummer friend of mine, If I were gonna pay a drummer I would probably go with Andols Herrick formerly of Chimaira as he is only a bit more expensive than what an average joe drummer wants, one regular Joe here in OKC wanted $300 a song, and Andols Herrick is $450, good deal for a proven Metal/hardcore Drummer.As for bass I am saving up for a <a href="http://www.dingwallguitars.com/basses/combustion/" target="_blank">Dingwall 5 String</a> to do the bass myself because again people want money, and I am hesitant to pay people before I hear a sample of what they could do over my stuff and no one will oblige that, This is also more of a Solo Project that I have gotten help from old musician friends from back in Oregon, and they want no credit except whatever they wrote, some hired guns want production credits and mixing credits and all sorts of credit where it is not due from my experience, and I usually end up spending WEEKS on a track when it comes to editing and mixing. Why just the other week I found a drummer here in OKC who said he wanted to jam, than proceeded to tell me anything we jammed on was his and I could not use it elsewhere because he would have been Co-Writer.....I just laughed and proceeded to block him from my phone.This is an album that when I do release it, will be Free/Pay What You Want or Can if you feel like it....No delusions of grandeur to play shows off of it or anything, in fact the only way that would happen is if I was getting guaranteed $, I am too old to go around selling tickets for a show then eating the cost if you dont sell them, I did that in a band when I was 17 and we worked our way up to opening for the likes of Chevelle and Korn and Rob Zombie when they were in town, I love making and performing music if it were economically justifiable...it's just that it isn't.TLDR Version: People want songwriting and arrangement credit, when they are hired to write and play one instrument, and arrangements and songs are already completed 100% by myself, horsecrap.TLDR x2: I really just want a dedicated writing partner, prefereably a drummer who knows how to program MIDI in a DAW. MY drummer friend in Oregon doing mine runs a Software company and only gets to it for 15-30 minute at a time.</blockquote>

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