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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 3023723" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>He put forth a far more comprehensive argument than yourself IMO, basically saying Nuh uh and citing false narratives of better overall healthcare elsewhere. </p><p></p><p>Your MRI statement shows a gross amount of ignorance of the regulation of the industries he spoke of. The Machines are more expensive than 100K btw but the cost of service has to do with no accountability and no real competition. </p><p></p><p>Pre-existing conditions? He's not banning them lol I grew up with asthma.... had better care than I do now in reference to what my parents paid and what I pay now for my family. Also grew up with two kids with Cystic Fibrosis, they never wanted for anything in the previous system, outside of a new set of lungs, which one of them got. While not perfect, they were never denied coverage nor care. They've both passed away but I'm still involved with the CF foundation here in Tulsa and thanks to Obamacare, many normal families with CF are struggling to pay individual premiums and deductibles..... because..... Obamacare forced several companies to shrink their insurance pools and kick families off ancillary coverage. </p><p></p><p>You keep citing "worse" outcomes and it's simply not true. Again, why did Canada's own PM fly down here for heart surgery?</p><p></p><p>Drug Prices? There's some merit here for sure. However, the lack of competition, extended patent periods, and research costs have all contributed to the rising costs.</p><p></p><p>In terms of illegal aliens using ERs as primary care, this isn't even up for negotiation. I've seen it first hand when I was working in the service industry for years. That's their culture, partly due to fact they aren't used to normal or routine healthcare.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Pay special attention from 3:00 on..... Doctor shortages are already happening.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]dr4TZMPmbuw[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JD8, post: 3023723, member: 24"] He put forth a far more comprehensive argument than yourself IMO, basically saying Nuh uh and citing false narratives of better overall healthcare elsewhere. Your MRI statement shows a gross amount of ignorance of the regulation of the industries he spoke of. The Machines are more expensive than 100K btw but the cost of service has to do with no accountability and no real competition. Pre-existing conditions? He's not banning them lol I grew up with asthma.... had better care than I do now in reference to what my parents paid and what I pay now for my family. Also grew up with two kids with Cystic Fibrosis, they never wanted for anything in the previous system, outside of a new set of lungs, which one of them got. While not perfect, they were never denied coverage nor care. They've both passed away but I'm still involved with the CF foundation here in Tulsa and thanks to Obamacare, many normal families with CF are struggling to pay individual premiums and deductibles..... because..... Obamacare forced several companies to shrink their insurance pools and kick families off ancillary coverage. You keep citing "worse" outcomes and it's simply not true. Again, why did Canada's own PM fly down here for heart surgery? Drug Prices? There's some merit here for sure. However, the lack of competition, extended patent periods, and research costs have all contributed to the rising costs. In terms of illegal aliens using ERs as primary care, this isn't even up for negotiation. I've seen it first hand when I was working in the service industry for years. That's their culture, partly due to fact they aren't used to normal or routine healthcare. Pay special attention from 3:00 on..... Doctor shortages are already happening. [MEDIA=youtube]dr4TZMPmbuw[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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