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<blockquote data-quote="Hawgman" data-source="post: 2747511" data-attributes="member: 7676"><p>I have a steel in ground, in garage shelter.</p><p></p><p>The way mine was installed it would have to lift the house to float out of the ground. The ones I've read about were not in the garage and were not cemented in properly. There's a wrong way and right way to do everything. If the earth shifted enough to crush it I'm thinking a sinkhole would be nearby swallowing up my whole house. If it's getting crushed that means my foundation would be gone whether I had a shelter of not.</p><p></p><p>I can think of two stories in the news in the last year or two where people died in above ground shelters. The doors were hit by debris enough to let water in but they couldn't get out. They drown or died of exposer. Just in the last several months I read a story of a lady who died in a traditional concrete below ground shelter. Something (a big branch I think) landed on it, cracked the top, pinned the door shut and she drowned. My point? There is NO shelter that can 100% guarantee you won't die.</p><p></p><p>Look at the helicopter footage of post tornado damage carefully. There are just as many houses with the debris collapsed inward as there are houses with the debris laying to the outside of its foundation. Often times both at the same house. People have been, and will be, occasionally trapped in shelters whether or not they are above ground, in ground, in garage, in the yard... whatever. Any purpose built shelter is way, way better than crouching in the hallway with a mattress over your head, sitting in your tub or ducking into a standard closet. As far as type, go with what makes you feel good. It's a coin toss, really. It's a tornado for Pete's sake, very little predictable logic to the damage, just lots of mayhem and chaos.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawgman, post: 2747511, member: 7676"] I have a steel in ground, in garage shelter. The way mine was installed it would have to lift the house to float out of the ground. The ones I've read about were not in the garage and were not cemented in properly. There's a wrong way and right way to do everything. If the earth shifted enough to crush it I'm thinking a sinkhole would be nearby swallowing up my whole house. If it's getting crushed that means my foundation would be gone whether I had a shelter of not. I can think of two stories in the news in the last year or two where people died in above ground shelters. The doors were hit by debris enough to let water in but they couldn't get out. They drown or died of exposer. Just in the last several months I read a story of a lady who died in a traditional concrete below ground shelter. Something (a big branch I think) landed on it, cracked the top, pinned the door shut and she drowned. My point? There is NO shelter that can 100% guarantee you won't die. Look at the helicopter footage of post tornado damage carefully. There are just as many houses with the debris collapsed inward as there are houses with the debris laying to the outside of its foundation. Often times both at the same house. People have been, and will be, occasionally trapped in shelters whether or not they are above ground, in ground, in garage, in the yard... whatever. Any purpose built shelter is way, way better than crouching in the hallway with a mattress over your head, sitting in your tub or ducking into a standard closet. As far as type, go with what makes you feel good. It's a coin toss, really. It's a tornado for Pete's sake, very little predictable logic to the damage, just lots of mayhem and chaos. [/QUOTE]
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