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<blockquote data-quote="Glocktogo" data-source="post: 2744701" data-attributes="member: 1132"><p>Again: Is the teen contemplating suicide due to bullying, calling for the death of infidels? Is that teen treating others disrespectfully and bullying them, because they practice different beliefs?</p><p></p><p>And: Is your wife or daughter calling for the death of infidels? Are they supporting the practice of misogyny?</p><p></p><p>You keep comparing apples to oranges here. Saying something personally hateful just because you're a terrible person and want to hurt others is one thing. Saying (or drawing) something that offends others because you disagree with how they treat people who disagree with their beliefs, is political speech and the highest form of protected speech. </p><p></p><p>What we have today within Islam is a fascist section of the Muslim population who practice hate speech, act with violence and suppress the free speech of both infidels and their fellow Muslims. They attack anyone who disagrees with them, all while claiming some fantasy right of retaliation against those who offend them. They hide behind their religious beliefs, when their behaviors obviously extend well beyond religious belief protection and into socio-political actions. For these reasons, their claims of persecution are wholly illegitimate. No one has abridged their right of religious freedom. They have a right to do and say as they wish, but they have no right to demand others adhere to their standards. </p><p></p><p>Please spare us the all the peaceful Muslims bit, because they have the right to ignore Gellers antics. No one is forcing them to observe, participate in or condone the event. Just as we do with WBC (in this respect, we agree). After all, WBC has been pulling their much less legitimate stunts for years and no one has tried to kill them, so again its apples to oranges. </p><p></p><p>The fastest and easiest way for the Muslim community in America to shut down people like Geller, is to resoundingly denounce actions like those of the Islamic State, Noori and Simpson, while acknowledging that Geller has the right to her views on Islam. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. Geller is calling attention to the fact that a segment of Islam is intolerant to the point of violence, and they are proving her correct. All they have to do to shut her up, is stop proving her correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glocktogo, post: 2744701, member: 1132"] Again: Is the teen contemplating suicide due to bullying, calling for the death of infidels? Is that teen treating others disrespectfully and bullying them, because they practice different beliefs? And: Is your wife or daughter calling for the death of infidels? Are they supporting the practice of misogyny? You keep comparing apples to oranges here. Saying something personally hateful just because you're a terrible person and want to hurt others is one thing. Saying (or drawing) something that offends others because you disagree with how they treat people who disagree with their beliefs, is political speech and the highest form of protected speech. What we have today within Islam is a fascist section of the Muslim population who practice hate speech, act with violence and suppress the free speech of both infidels and their fellow Muslims. They attack anyone who disagrees with them, all while claiming some fantasy right of retaliation against those who offend them. They hide behind their religious beliefs, when their behaviors obviously extend well beyond religious belief protection and into socio-political actions. For these reasons, their claims of persecution are wholly illegitimate. No one has abridged their right of religious freedom. They have a right to do and say as they wish, but they have no right to demand others adhere to their standards. Please spare us the all the peaceful Muslims bit, because they have the right to ignore Gellers antics. No one is forcing them to observe, participate in or condone the event. Just as we do with WBC (in this respect, we agree). After all, WBC has been pulling their much less legitimate stunts for years and no one has tried to kill them, so again its apples to oranges. The fastest and easiest way for the Muslim community in America to shut down people like Geller, is to resoundingly denounce actions like those of the Islamic State, Noori and Simpson, while acknowledging that Geller has the right to her views on Islam. I disagree. Geller is calling attention to the fact that a segment of Islam is intolerant to the point of violence, and they are proving her correct. All they have to do to shut her up, is stop proving her correct. [/QUOTE]
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