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<blockquote data-quote="dutchwrangler" data-source="post: 1618816" data-attributes="member: 4650"><p>Unions as mentioned are but a small factor in the scheme of the US economy. Their influence on prices is limited to the point of not even taking them into account.</p><p></p><p>There is not a business anywhere in the world that pays taxes. All taxes turned over by a business to a government are nothing more than an additional cost on the end price of a product. You as the CEO might pay a personal income tax, but the business doesn't. Again... all government mandates, regulatory burderns and taxes are factored into the price of the product or service provided and passed onto the consumer. Prove me wrong.</p><p></p><p>Let's take the industry I'm familiar with... trucking which moves nearly all product around the US. You think the trucking company pays for the increase in fuel prices when taxes on fuel goes up? If you do you're mistaken. When fuel prices increase, the trucking company increases shipping rates to the manufacturers, farmers, industry, etc. wanting to sell product. They in turn increase the price of their product that goes on a shelf or served in a restaurant. It is the final consumer who always pays for all these forms of taxation. Again, prove me wrong with facts.</p><p></p><p>I recommend a great book on understanding economics: "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt. Starting with the Broken Window Theory and working through all the governmental crap that burdens business with increased meddling, it'll provide those willing to learn the actual way that economics functions. Whether it's a mom and pop corner shop or big oil... there isn't a business entity that pays taxes. Granted that big business in this day and age is cozy with government (corporatism) and as such is granted exemptions based on one thing and one thing only... kissing government ass. But that issue takes us full circle to keeping the size of the central government small and limited in power which I've brought up elsewhere on this forum time and time again.</p><p></p><p>I'll repeat for everyone... government is not your friend. It only desires to enslave, be it economically or at worst, physically. Reject government interference in your lives, read the Founding documents and stop paying lip service to Liberty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dutchwrangler, post: 1618816, member: 4650"] Unions as mentioned are but a small factor in the scheme of the US economy. Their influence on prices is limited to the point of not even taking them into account. There is not a business anywhere in the world that pays taxes. All taxes turned over by a business to a government are nothing more than an additional cost on the end price of a product. You as the CEO might pay a personal income tax, but the business doesn't. Again... all government mandates, regulatory burderns and taxes are factored into the price of the product or service provided and passed onto the consumer. Prove me wrong. Let's take the industry I'm familiar with... trucking which moves nearly all product around the US. You think the trucking company pays for the increase in fuel prices when taxes on fuel goes up? If you do you're mistaken. When fuel prices increase, the trucking company increases shipping rates to the manufacturers, farmers, industry, etc. wanting to sell product. They in turn increase the price of their product that goes on a shelf or served in a restaurant. It is the final consumer who always pays for all these forms of taxation. Again, prove me wrong with facts. I recommend a great book on understanding economics: "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt. Starting with the Broken Window Theory and working through all the governmental crap that burdens business with increased meddling, it'll provide those willing to learn the actual way that economics functions. Whether it's a mom and pop corner shop or big oil... there isn't a business entity that pays taxes. Granted that big business in this day and age is cozy with government (corporatism) and as such is granted exemptions based on one thing and one thing only... kissing government ass. But that issue takes us full circle to keeping the size of the central government small and limited in power which I've brought up elsewhere on this forum time and time again. I'll repeat for everyone... government is not your friend. It only desires to enslave, be it economically or at worst, physically. Reject government interference in your lives, read the Founding documents and stop paying lip service to Liberty. [/QUOTE]
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