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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 879303" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>I can get it online, and I do have a small stockpile at home.(3 boxes) I am always looking for some local to avoid the shipping costs. I'm probably going to have to give it up and look on the net for some of the Hornady stuff just now out. They said in the ballistic gel, they are getting 9" of penetration with 4 layers of denim in front of the gel. Also getting expansion. I want some of that. Do need some of the practice stuff though.</p></blockquote><p></p>