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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GlockCop" data-source="post: 1350448" data-attributes="member: 1143"><p>Ok. so far....I took the two cables off the positive side of the battery and cleanes them thoroughly. I traced one back to the fuse-relay center. There is a four prong gray square fuse that is labeled a starter relay. Is it possible this is it? Ever hear of one going bad? Is there a way to test it? Im at wits end. You guys have got some great ideas going though. BTW I have a jumper I made years ago for an old VW (hmmm always worked on that pos too) anyway I beleive it is a 12 guage wire with two alligator clips on each ens. Would this be big enough to test with or do I need thicker gauge wires?</p></blockquote><p></p>