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<blockquote data-quote="coolhandluke" data-source="post: 1646129" data-attributes="member: 13284"><p>The Watco oil is a good product. I have never used it, but I see people swear by it when working specifically on Garand stocks. If I remember correctly a lot of people were using the dark walnut and teak oils that already had a stain pre-mixed. It's a mix of varnish, BLO, and MS so it does protect the wood better than just straight BLO or PTO. If that's the route that you end up going, I wouldn't bother adding any sort of a top coat other than the Tom's mix to seal it. I would definitely try using some quality pre-stain conditioner before applying anything to the stock. I've seen some people use the technique of sanding the Watco into the wood with high grit sandpaper. It leaves a gorgeous sheen. I wouldn't use the sandpaper method on the stock, but you might try doing some research and see if it can be applied with steel or bronze wool using an oil scrub method (scrubbing the oil into the stock with wetted wool). An easy way to tell how the stock will take on oil (and if there is any tiger striping or figuring) is to wet it down with MS. Normally it will look pretty much identical to wood with one or two coats of unstained oil.</p><p></p><p>The Fiebings dyes just seem to bring out lots of red when applied to birch. Below is a before picture showing that there wasn't much, if any, color to the stock before it was refinished. I'm not sure if anyone in town carries the dye, but if they did I would assume that a leather shop should carry it. I have purchased all of my Fiebings dyes on Ebay. Just be sure to get the alcohol based dyes...there are water based Fiebings versions out there and they do not work near as well.</p><p></p><p>Here are a few photos for reference...</p><p></p><p>PTO on CMP new replacement birch stock.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i181.photobucket.com_albums_x97_mach_won_GarandBirch3.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Dark oil based stain on CMP new replacement birch stock. Blotchy and overall pretty bad looking. The Watco finish would look much better than this, especially if pre-stain conditioner was used.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i181.photobucket.com_albums_x97_mach_won_GarandBirch2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Before photo of the stock that was refinished with Fiebings.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i181.photobucket.com_albums_x97_mach_won_Garand005edited2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="coolhandluke, post: 1646129, member: 13284"] The Watco oil is a good product. I have never used it, but I see people swear by it when working specifically on Garand stocks. If I remember correctly a lot of people were using the dark walnut and teak oils that already had a stain pre-mixed. It's a mix of varnish, BLO, and MS so it does protect the wood better than just straight BLO or PTO. If that's the route that you end up going, I wouldn't bother adding any sort of a top coat other than the Tom's mix to seal it. I would definitely try using some quality pre-stain conditioner before applying anything to the stock. I've seen some people use the technique of sanding the Watco into the wood with high grit sandpaper. It leaves a gorgeous sheen. I wouldn't use the sandpaper method on the stock, but you might try doing some research and see if it can be applied with steel or bronze wool using an oil scrub method (scrubbing the oil into the stock with wetted wool). An easy way to tell how the stock will take on oil (and if there is any tiger striping or figuring) is to wet it down with MS. Normally it will look pretty much identical to wood with one or two coats of unstained oil. The Fiebings dyes just seem to bring out lots of red when applied to birch. Below is a before picture showing that there wasn't much, if any, color to the stock before it was refinished. I'm not sure if anyone in town carries the dye, but if they did I would assume that a leather shop should carry it. I have purchased all of my Fiebings dyes on Ebay. Just be sure to get the alcohol based dyes...there are water based Fiebings versions out there and they do not work near as well. Here are a few photos for reference... PTO on CMP new replacement birch stock. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i181.photobucket.com_albums_x97_mach_won_GarandBirch3.jpg[/IMG] Dark oil based stain on CMP new replacement birch stock. Blotchy and overall pretty bad looking. The Watco finish would look much better than this, especially if pre-stain conditioner was used. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i181.photobucket.com_albums_x97_mach_won_GarandBirch2.jpg[/IMG] Before photo of the stock that was refinished with Fiebings. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/i181.photobucket.com_albums_x97_mach_won_Garand005edited2.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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