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<blockquote data-quote="henschman" data-source="post: 1283343" data-attributes="member: 4235"><p>Are you asking what's limiting about the fact that you have a 5-round mag and have to break part of your position between every shot? If you're only worried about taking one shot with great precision, than nothing is limiting about a bolt gun. If there is a possibility of multiple targets, especially if they need to be dealt with relatively quickly, then maybe it is. There is also the fact that an M-14 can be used for more than long-range precision.</p><p></p><p>By "not anything close" in repeatable accuracy, I guess you mean a difference of about 1/4 to MAYBE 1/2 MOA? Just about any decent M-14 variant will shoot 1 MOA or less with good ammo. The OP is interested in shooting from 600-800, maybe 1000 yards... that is prime M-14 territory, especially if you're talking about man-sized targets. Now if you plan on shooting more than 1000 yards on a regular basis, or need to hit something smaller than a man-sized target at 700-1000 yards, I agree, a bolt gun is the only way to fly.</p><p></p><p>The limiting factors with an M-14 would be the impact on barrel harmonics by having a gas system attached to the barrel; the fact that bedding is a little more involved; and that you can't use the really heavy loads unless you buy an adjustable gas plug.</p><p></p><p>I guess it might depend on what exactly the OP has in mind using the rifle for. An M-14 could serve as an excellent battle rifle that could also perform some of the duties that are typically thought of as belonging to the "long-range precision rifle" category, and could lay down a little more firepower than a bolt gun.</p><p></p><p>If you just need something that can make a hit at long range as accurately as possible and don't care about any of that other stuff, then you can get what you want much easier and cheaper with a bolt gun.</p><p></p><p>It sounds like the OP is looking for an idea for his next rifle purchase, and I thought I'd remind him that the long-range game is not limited to bolt actions. </p><p></p><p>The .308 ARs are also not a bad idea. They tend to be about as accurate as a bedded M1A without having to go to the pain of bedding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="henschman, post: 1283343, member: 4235"] Are you asking what's limiting about the fact that you have a 5-round mag and have to break part of your position between every shot? If you're only worried about taking one shot with great precision, than nothing is limiting about a bolt gun. If there is a possibility of multiple targets, especially if they need to be dealt with relatively quickly, then maybe it is. There is also the fact that an M-14 can be used for more than long-range precision. By "not anything close" in repeatable accuracy, I guess you mean a difference of about 1/4 to MAYBE 1/2 MOA? Just about any decent M-14 variant will shoot 1 MOA or less with good ammo. The OP is interested in shooting from 600-800, maybe 1000 yards... that is prime M-14 territory, especially if you're talking about man-sized targets. Now if you plan on shooting more than 1000 yards on a regular basis, or need to hit something smaller than a man-sized target at 700-1000 yards, I agree, a bolt gun is the only way to fly. The limiting factors with an M-14 would be the impact on barrel harmonics by having a gas system attached to the barrel; the fact that bedding is a little more involved; and that you can't use the really heavy loads unless you buy an adjustable gas plug. I guess it might depend on what exactly the OP has in mind using the rifle for. An M-14 could serve as an excellent battle rifle that could also perform some of the duties that are typically thought of as belonging to the "long-range precision rifle" category, and could lay down a little more firepower than a bolt gun. If you just need something that can make a hit at long range as accurately as possible and don't care about any of that other stuff, then you can get what you want much easier and cheaper with a bolt gun. It sounds like the OP is looking for an idea for his next rifle purchase, and I thought I'd remind him that the long-range game is not limited to bolt actions. The .308 ARs are also not a bad idea. They tend to be about as accurate as a bedded M1A without having to go to the pain of bedding. [/QUOTE]
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