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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wawazat" data-source="post: 3883167" data-attributes="member: 35603">I wouldnt disagree that it certainly looks that way, I just disagree with relying on the government to be our parental figure.  I firmly believe in giving people enough rope to hang themselves and only intervening once it pours over onto someone else.  I know the common rebuttal to this approach is abuse of the social assistance programs, but those systems are due for an overhaul as well.  It is a very steep uphill climb to convince me that I should have my freedom's restricted because someone else was never taught how to adult properly.  I would come closer to agreeing to it being settled in a coliseum with tigers and bears than ever agreeing to give the government that kind of authority.</blockquote>