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<blockquote data-quote="jsl_pt" data-source="post: 1955009" data-attributes="member: 19194"><p>From gun owners of America: some more info on obamas stellar gun record </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gun Owners of America</p><p>The only no-compromise pro gun blog on the web</p><p>Menu</p><p></p><p>Obama's record of gun control</p><p>Now that it is finally on the radar with his public support of a semi automatic weapons ban i thought I would explain just how anti gun Barack Obama. Somehow, people keep lauding how pro gun he is. All the can point to is a National Park carry amendment to a Credit Card Reform bill he had to sign and the fact that he hasn't pushed any gun control measures in his first term.</p><p></p><p>Let's start with those two. First, the Credit Card Reform bill was a big deal to him at the time and as such Republicans used it to attach the National Parks Carry amendment to it. Obama could either veto it and basically undermine his entire campaign on how important the CCR bill was or he could grudgingly sign it. He signed it.</p><p></p><p>Next, he hasn't pushed for any gun control measures. He has, but people tend not to see it because as the President said, he's doing it "under the radar".</p><p></p><p>It's political suicide to openly challenge the 2nd Amendment. Bill Clinton learned that lesson back in 1994 and the Congress was lost to him. Al Gore learned it in 2000 when he lost his gun loving home state along with Clinton's.</p><p></p><p>So yes, Obama has not pushed for any gun control bills. But at the same time his threat of veto has stalled pro gun bills like National Reciprocity in the Senate where a veto proof majority (60 votes) has come up just short.</p><p></p><p>The President also has appointed or tried to appoint a slew of anti gun activist judges to the Federal Judicial Branch. These include Sotomayor and Kagan to the Supreme Court. Sotomayor lied to congress declaring that the 2nd Amendment was an individual right and then in her first case on the subject rules against the right to keep and bear arms.</p><p></p><p>Kagan is no better. Stating that she has "no sympathy" for the argument against complete gun bans.</p><p></p><p>With the number of vacancies in the lower courts Obama keeps nominating waves of anti gun justices and it is politically untenable to stop them all so gun grabbers are getting through the cracks. Fortunately, even the President goes too far and picks an extremist that is beyond the pale. Such was the case of Caitlin Halligan.</p><p></p><p>And these are only some of his appointments, others like his Cabinet members, staff and his army of czars are even more extreme.</p><p></p><p>Then there is the Presidents support of the United Nations Small Arms Treaty which would erode American Sovereignty and cripple the importation and exportation of firearms thus causing financial difficulty to US manufacturers. The end game of course is to get around the Constitution and bankrupt US Manufacturers.</p><p></p><p>So, we have a President who was forced to sign a bill with a pro gun amendment attached, has stone walled any stand alone pro gun bill, has nominated and pushed to pack the courts with anti gun judges, and supports a UN Treaty that would threaten American Sovereignty and the Second Amendment.</p><p></p><p>We haven't even gotten to his record. Oh yes, he has a record of promoting gun control on the books.</p><p></p><p>In Illinois Obama opposed a bill that would ok the use of a firearm to defend yourself in a home invasion robbery. Not only did he vote against it but after it was passed and vetoed by then Gov. Blagojevich he voted against the override attempt. It passed despite Obama's efforts.</p><p></p><p>Obama has endorsed the Illinois Gun ban.</p><p></p><p>Obama supported the DC gun ban.</p><p></p><p>Stated he believes in the licensing and registering of guns.</p><p></p><p>In 2000, co sponsored a bill limiting firearms purchases to 1 gun a month</p><p></p><p>In a 2004 Senatorial debate argued that President Bush was wrong by not renewing the Assault Weapons Ban. Apparently, revealed in his last debate, he still feels the same way.</p><p></p><p>In 1998 stated he supported:</p><p></p><p>Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.</p><p>Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.</p><p>Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.</p><p>As a US Senator, Obama voted no to prohibit frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers for crimes used by their product. Once again, its like suing General Motors for being hit by a drunk driver in a GM car.</p><p></p><p>Under the radar, over the radar it doesn't matter. President Obama is anti gun and pro control. For those of you who say otherwise you are either insincere or blindly naive at best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jsl_pt, post: 1955009, member: 19194"] From gun owners of America: some more info on obamas stellar gun record Gun Owners of America The only no-compromise pro gun blog on the web Menu Obama's record of gun control Now that it is finally on the radar with his public support of a semi automatic weapons ban i thought I would explain just how anti gun Barack Obama. Somehow, people keep lauding how pro gun he is. All the can point to is a National Park carry amendment to a Credit Card Reform bill he had to sign and the fact that he hasn't pushed any gun control measures in his first term. Let's start with those two. First, the Credit Card Reform bill was a big deal to him at the time and as such Republicans used it to attach the National Parks Carry amendment to it. Obama could either veto it and basically undermine his entire campaign on how important the CCR bill was or he could grudgingly sign it. He signed it. Next, he hasn't pushed for any gun control measures. He has, but people tend not to see it because as the President said, he's doing it "under the radar". It's political suicide to openly challenge the 2nd Amendment. Bill Clinton learned that lesson back in 1994 and the Congress was lost to him. Al Gore learned it in 2000 when he lost his gun loving home state along with Clinton's. So yes, Obama has not pushed for any gun control bills. But at the same time his threat of veto has stalled pro gun bills like National Reciprocity in the Senate where a veto proof majority (60 votes) has come up just short. The President also has appointed or tried to appoint a slew of anti gun activist judges to the Federal Judicial Branch. These include Sotomayor and Kagan to the Supreme Court. Sotomayor lied to congress declaring that the 2nd Amendment was an individual right and then in her first case on the subject rules against the right to keep and bear arms. Kagan is no better. Stating that she has "no sympathy" for the argument against complete gun bans. With the number of vacancies in the lower courts Obama keeps nominating waves of anti gun justices and it is politically untenable to stop them all so gun grabbers are getting through the cracks. Fortunately, even the President goes too far and picks an extremist that is beyond the pale. Such was the case of Caitlin Halligan. And these are only some of his appointments, others like his Cabinet members, staff and his army of czars are even more extreme. Then there is the Presidents support of the United Nations Small Arms Treaty which would erode American Sovereignty and cripple the importation and exportation of firearms thus causing financial difficulty to US manufacturers. The end game of course is to get around the Constitution and bankrupt US Manufacturers. So, we have a President who was forced to sign a bill with a pro gun amendment attached, has stone walled any stand alone pro gun bill, has nominated and pushed to pack the courts with anti gun judges, and supports a UN Treaty that would threaten American Sovereignty and the Second Amendment. We haven't even gotten to his record. Oh yes, he has a record of promoting gun control on the books. In Illinois Obama opposed a bill that would ok the use of a firearm to defend yourself in a home invasion robbery. Not only did he vote against it but after it was passed and vetoed by then Gov. Blagojevich he voted against the override attempt. It passed despite Obama's efforts. Obama has endorsed the Illinois Gun ban. Obama supported the DC gun ban. Stated he believes in the licensing and registering of guns. In 2000, co sponsored a bill limiting firearms purchases to 1 gun a month In a 2004 Senatorial debate argued that President Bush was wrong by not renewing the Assault Weapons Ban. Apparently, revealed in his last debate, he still feels the same way. In 1998 stated he supported: Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons. Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms. Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms. As a US Senator, Obama voted no to prohibit frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers for crimes used by their product. Once again, its like suing General Motors for being hit by a drunk driver in a GM car. Under the radar, over the radar it doesn't matter. President Obama is anti gun and pro control. For those of you who say otherwise you are either insincere or blindly naive at best. [/QUOTE]
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