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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fitz-" data-source="post: 4181937" data-attributes="member: 50525">Lol do tell me what you mean by 3a+.  There's (or was NIJ just updated their definitions) 3a, 3 and a industry made up 3+ which means different things to different people. A is generally worse than the number it's with. So 3A generally just pistol rounds, maybe you mean one that's stab resistant as well? Don't buy steel, the coating is still *******, and they are silly heavy. Plenty of about as cheap and not quite as heavy stuff. Though if on a budget and still want performance against green tip etc, there's stuff like L210 special threat plates etc.</blockquote>