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<blockquote data-quote="XD-9Guy" data-source="post: 2098998" data-attributes="member: 4869"><p>It's not a "but there are kids" argument for me - it's a "we'll be amongst the first to do it and we'll have a big target on us" argument. The anti crowd will be watching schools that implement these kind of programs like hawks and if there is an incident that doesn't go exactly the way it ought, it will be blown out across the world in moments so they can show everyone "what a failure the program is". That's why it's so important that everyone is prepared and over-prepared isn't such a bad thing, we can always scale it back in the future if we can show where the training is excessive. Right now you can't carry at all, period, exclamation point - so this is still a step in the right direction. They chipped our rights away a little at a time so we wouldn't get to stirred up about it, I don't see any reason we can't use the same approach to take them back.</p><p></p><p>You are fortunate in your daycare situation and I can assure you that you are in a HUGE minority in being able to pay by the day, especially in an "in-home" daycare. If you are pleased with her, I would appreciate you PMing her info so I can check her out... and I am being completely serious about that.</p><p></p><p>But also realize that I meant, I don't know that daycare is a relevant talking point for the <u>majority</u> of teachers, it is for you - but your username leads me to believe that you coach as well as teach which means that you will likely struggle to find time for any sort of scheduled training. I'm very familiar with the time investment coaching requires, regardless of sport, and know that it is going to be really hard for a lot of coaches to get training in even if they cut the training in half to 120 hours. I know some coaches that work in excess of 40 hours per week in the off season, but that doesn't mean that we make the rules to accommodate teachers that have chosen to coach. I'm confident that if they put this into practice, the agencies responsible for training would do their best to find a way to create schedules to accommodate everyone in education - I just want to see it started.</p><p></p><p>And you are right that in a perfect world this wouldn't even be a discussion... the teachers that are shooters would be carrying their firearms and that would be comforting to parents and fellow teachers. But we all know we aren't living in a perfect world, it has lots of flaws.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="XD-9Guy, post: 2098998, member: 4869"] It's not a "but there are kids" argument for me - it's a "we'll be amongst the first to do it and we'll have a big target on us" argument. The anti crowd will be watching schools that implement these kind of programs like hawks and if there is an incident that doesn't go exactly the way it ought, it will be blown out across the world in moments so they can show everyone "what a failure the program is". That's why it's so important that everyone is prepared and over-prepared isn't such a bad thing, we can always scale it back in the future if we can show where the training is excessive. Right now you can't carry at all, period, exclamation point - so this is still a step in the right direction. They chipped our rights away a little at a time so we wouldn't get to stirred up about it, I don't see any reason we can't use the same approach to take them back. You are fortunate in your daycare situation and I can assure you that you are in a HUGE minority in being able to pay by the day, especially in an "in-home" daycare. If you are pleased with her, I would appreciate you PMing her info so I can check her out... and I am being completely serious about that. But also realize that I meant, I don't know that daycare is a relevant talking point for the [U]majority[/U] of teachers, it is for you - but your username leads me to believe that you coach as well as teach which means that you will likely struggle to find time for any sort of scheduled training. I'm very familiar with the time investment coaching requires, regardless of sport, and know that it is going to be really hard for a lot of coaches to get training in even if they cut the training in half to 120 hours. I know some coaches that work in excess of 40 hours per week in the off season, but that doesn't mean that we make the rules to accommodate teachers that have chosen to coach. I'm confident that if they put this into practice, the agencies responsible for training would do their best to find a way to create schedules to accommodate everyone in education - I just want to see it started. And you are right that in a perfect world this wouldn't even be a discussion... the teachers that are shooters would be carrying their firearms and that would be comforting to parents and fellow teachers. But we all know we aren't living in a perfect world, it has lots of flaws. [/QUOTE]
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